Grantham near miss

[michaelhendle]

Hi,

By all acounts there was a near miss at Gratham last night luckily the train was slowing for the station stop,according to friend whose a gaurd on NXEC the DVT hit a load off ballest that some little s---'s had put on the track,The DVT actual jumped in the air but landed with all wheels on the track.

He said if the train had not been making the station stop and running at line speed it would have derailed,this was his worse experiance since Hatfield, he was the gaurd on that train when it crashed.

If any kids read this please think twice,keep well away from the railway and don't put any thing on the track,how would you like the thought of x number deaths on your consiunce for the rest of you life.

Michael

[MCR247]

If any kids read this please think twice,keep well away from the railway and don't put any thing on the track,how would you like the thought of x number deaths on your consiunce for the rest of you life.

Michael

Dont you think thats a bit of a stereotype? Not all 'Kids' are stupid chavs who do stuff like that. I personally find that a bit offending

[danielw2599]

Im also having a hard time believing the DVT "jumped" just from hitting ballast (or at all), particularly as you say the train was making a station stop.

[yorkie]

If any kids read this please think twice,keep well away from the railway and don't put any thing on the track,how would you like the thought of x number deaths on your consiunce for the rest of you life.

Why should only 'kids' think twice?

[6rdfar90]

Exactly...

This is what I HATE about todays society, and I think it's got a lot to do with people's views and ideas today too.

I know so many "chavs" as people would call them - but they don't act stereotypically etc, as some people would.

I was scared to come out, as people have such inappropriate attitudes towards gay/bi people, and I didn't want these thoughts surrounding me, as that wasn't who I was!

[Ryosuke]

too sad those idiots never seem to be caught...

over here its somewhat popular to put concrete plates on ICE tracks or even screw steel plates on them. those are way to complex or heavy tasks for kids. they might put some stones or other small stuff on the rails, but those who put a pile of ballast or concrete blocks on the rails seem to know exactly what they're doing. i'd like to know what drives these people!

[bharrison]

If any kids read this please think twice,keep well away from the railway and don't put any thing on the track,how would you like the thought of x number deaths on your consiunce for the rest of you life.

MIke has a serious point but so do other users MIkes just trying to be honest not sterotype you have to be blunt when it comes to rail safety.

They want caught and tought a lesson the disrespectful swines.
Signal cable has been taken before and Network Rail get the Blame as trains ain't running to time.

[MCR247]

If any kids read this please think twice,keep well away from the railway and don't put any thing on the track,how would you like the thought of x number deaths on your consiunce for the rest of you life.

MIke has a serious point but so do other users MIkes just trying to be honest not sterotype you have to be blunt when it comes to rail safety.

.

That is obviously a stereotype as how he saying 'all kids do stuff like that', which isnt needed. What railway safety has to do with stereotyping is beyond me

[thenudehamster]

This discussion could easily become political, which is something I'd like to avoid; however, in my experience, 'kids' - the term by which we tend to refer to persons of less than the statutory legal age of majority - are responsible for a considerable proportion of the mindless vandalism perpetrated in all sorts of ways on society - graffiti, setting fire to rubbish bins, breaking windows of empty commercial property, and more. By this, I do not mean that all kids are vandals, just that the majority of vandals seem to be kids; if this is stereotyping, then I'm guilty, but it's largely a matter of interpretation.
It's a little like the argument over criminality in general; statistically, most crime is committed by young black males, but you can spin the figures to prove anything. Is it that more young black males are caught because the police target that group for racist reasons, is it that the police target the group because their experience shows that they commit more crime, or is it simply that this group commits more crime? Are they targeted because they're young, they're black, or they're criminal? People will choose the viewpoint that reinforces their belief without regard for the accuracy. I'm not judging one way or the other here, by the way, simply presenting a view of a situation, and I do not want it to degenerate it a slanging match on a social commentary that does not exist.

Same thing with kids and vandalism; younger children have a less developed sense of responsibility and certainly do not seem to consider the long term effect of their actions. They are driven by a sense of 'now' and 'me', and will act in ways which provide an instant of gratification for themselves or sometimes to impress their peers, and not consider the consequences; it's why we call a lot of actions and attitudes 'childish'; it's not that all children have that attitude, just that the individuals who do tend to be children.

To this end, directing an appeal to consider the consequences of their actions to 'kids' is targeting the likely perpetrators.
However, more to the point is the thought that none of them are likely to be reading this forum, so the appeal is a little redundant. Readers of this forum are generally interested in railways and trains, and have the consequent sense of safety from that interest. On the other hand if you know of anyone, young or old, who thinks that putting objects on a railway line 'for fun' is great entertainment, then perhaps you'd like to place them on the line and see how quickly their attitude changes...

[arabiandisco]

I would say that "kids" perpetrate things like this. Not all kids, obviously, but I would be inclined to blame graffiti and putting objects on the track on "kids".

Adults also vandalise the railway though. Last week 3 men (one aged around 25, the others aged about 50) were sentenced to 17 years in prison for cable theft in Kent. I believe there is a major issue with cable theft around Sheffield/ Leeds/ Manchester/ Liverpool as well, though nowhere is safe from these chiefs.

[salopiangrowler]

i dont think any rail vandals would actually come on this site. so i dont think kids would read this anyway.

[davejc64]

Wasn't there something on the news the other day about some daft group of protesters hijacking a coal train, didn't see the whole story just caught part of it.

[salopiangrowler]

Aged between 19 - 40 "the should know better age" they were found guilty. Know they are raising money to fight in an appeal just to prove they were right in what they did by trying to make people listern and save the planet, which is beyond saving, tbh.

They actually caused more Co2 than saved it.

Drax29 they are on facebook and twitter i wouldnt mind better they are on myspace too.