East Mids winner announced

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:00 am

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/passenge ... mfranchise

And the winner is.... Stagecoach.

NatEx are somewhat out in the cold now, with only 'one', and their bid for ICEC.

JSReeves86 · Post by **JSReeves86** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:59 am

What a blow, so they kick out the best rail operator in the country, typical of this government something running well so they have to mess it up.

JR

dkightley · Post by **dkightley** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:04 pm

Two trains an hour between London and the new East Midlands Parkway station from 2008

Reading between the lines, it looks like there'll be one train an hour from each of Derby and Nottingham......a reduced service!

And I expect the winning bid is designed to be for the convenience of the operator....and not designed to be for the benefit of the travelling public!

An existing example of this is changing the Saturday morning departure from Nottingham to St Pancras from 06:30 to 06:25....a minute before the first NET tram of the day pulls into the adjacent tram station! No doubt this move was to improve the chances of the train arriving on time...and hence make the figures look better!

Or am I being synical?????

BR7MT · Post by **BR7MT** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:16 pm

More like the winning bid will pay back more money to the Government...

Regards,

Dan

tigermon · Post by **tigermon** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:51 pm

dkightley wrote:
Two trains an hour between London and the new East Midlands Parkway station from 2008
Reading between the lines, it looks like there'll be one train an hour from each of Derby and Nottingham......a reduced service!

You didnt read it correctly, it says there will be five services on the MML.

1 TPH London - Kettering
2 TPH London - Nottingham
1 TPH London - Derby
1 TPH London - Sheffield

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:32 pm

Will this mean a better rail service for Lincolnshire.........yes a direct train to London apparently.

Last time my wife went to London, via Derby, I think she got there about 2 pm.
Why did she go via Derby.... because it saved her about £50 (good old GNER glad they've gone)... BTW she said the trains were fairly empty.
Cheers
Jon

PS How far West do you have to go before your classed as in the Midlands ?..........must be a fine line somewhere........ because Birmingham is classed as West Midlands I believe.

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:24 pm

Call it about Water Orton!

This Lincoln service will inevitable end up being an extension of one Nottingham per day anyway.

dkightley · Post by **dkightley** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:46 pm

You didnt read it correctly, it says there will be five services on the MML.

1 TPH London - Kettering
2 TPH London - Nottingham
1 TPH London - Derby
1 TPH London - Sheffield

Tigermon

Bet you can't find the above in the following! I know what I read! And I didn't misread it!

Stock Market statement
For immediate release: 07.00 22 June 2007

More services and extra capacity for the Midlands
The Department for Transport today announced that Stagecoach Midland Rail Limited (a subsidiary of Stagecoach Group plc) has been awarded the contract to run the East Midlands franchise.

The new franchise will begin on 11th November 2007and end on April 1st 2015. However the DfT has the right to terminate the franchise after six years if the operator is failing to meet agreed performance targets.

The franchise will deliver increased capacity, better performance and the introduction of smartcard technology by 2010.

The East Midlands franchise brings together current Midland Mainline services from London St Pancras and the eastern section of Central Trains. It will receive a subsidy in the early years of the franchise and pay a premium in the later years. Over the seven year and four month life of the franchise a premium of £133m (NPV) will be paid to the Department.

Benefits to passengers include:

An extra hourly Kettering - London service, with agreement to extend this to a new station at Corby
A new direct daily service between Lincoln and London
Two trains an hour between London and the new East Midlands Parkway station from 2008
A 9% increase in peak capacity into and out of London St Pancras, plus more carriages on the busiest trains between Liverpool and Nottingham.
More than £5m of improvements at stations and more than £20m on enhancing rolling stock;
Provision of at least 1250 new car parking spaces and 400 more bicycle spaces;
Forecast 90.4% punctuality and reliability by the end of the franchise
The Government will continue to limit annual rises of regulated fares in line with national policy, which is currently RPI+1%.

As with all franchises, unregulated fares will be the responsibility of the operator. In the East Midlands, Stagecoach Midland Rail Limited is expected to increase unregulated fares by an average of RPI+3.4% per annum.

Passengers will benefit from new arrangements to be compensated for delays and poor performance.

ENDS

Notes to Editors:

1. The premium profile for the East Midlands franchise is:

Mar-08 Mar-09 Mar-10 Mar-11 Mar-12 Mar-13 Mar-14 Mar-15
35,651* 64,291 36,461 424 (43,842) (77,355) (98,315) (154,978)

(Nominal, £000s, part years indicated with asterisks, premium numbers in brackets)

2. The parties invited to submit bids for the East Midlands franchise were Arriva Trains East Midlands Limited (Arriva plc); First East Midlands Limited (First Group plc); NXE Trains Limited (National Express Group plc); Stagecoach Midland Rail Limited (Stagecoach Group plc).

3. The new passenger refund system, Delay/Repay, will compensate season ticket holders for delays to journeys they have actually taken, not on the basis of overall performance. This is the same compensation system as currently operates for single, return and weekly ticket holders. Refunds will be on the basis of the proportional daily cost of season tickets, with a 50% single refund for delays of 30-59 minutes, 100% single refund for delays of 60-119 minutes, and 100% return refund for delays of 120 minutes+. This system will be rolled out nationally during the term of each new franchise.

4. More details are available on the Department for Transport website at http://www.dft.gov.uk

I may not have followed the link to read more details....but I didn't misread anything.

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:06 pm

It doesn't explicitly say it, but there will be 5tph south of Kettering (well, as far as Bedford anyway!).

Though (and I may sound like a broken record here) if there was any sense to the world, the Corby train would be an extension of the Thameslink service, which means electrification...

richard222 · Post by **richard222** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:25 pm

dkightley wrote:
You didnt read it correctly, it says there will be five services on the MML.

1 TPH London - Kettering
2 TPH London - Nottingham
1 TPH London - Derby
1 TPH London - Sheffield
Tigermon

Bet you can't find the above in the following! I know what I read! And I didn't misread it!

Stock Market statement
For immediate release: 07.00 22 June 2007

More services and extra capacity for the Midlands
The Department for Transport today announced that Stagecoach Midland Rail Limited (a subsidiary of Stagecoach Group plc) has been awarded the contract to run the East Midlands franchise.

The new franchise will begin on 11th November 2007and end on April 1st 2015. However the DfT has the right to terminate the franchise after six years if the operator is failing to meet agreed performance targets.

The franchise will deliver increased capacity, better performance and the introduction of smartcard technology by 2010.

The East Midlands franchise brings together current Midland Mainline services from London St Pancras and the eastern section of Central Trains. It will receive a subsidy in the early years of the franchise and pay a premium in the later years. Over the seven year and four month life of the franchise a premium of £133m (NPV) will be paid to the Department.

Benefits to passengers include:

An extra hourly Kettering - London service, with agreement to extend this to a new station at Corby
A new direct daily service between Lincoln and London
Two trains an hour between London and the new East Midlands Parkway station from 2008
A 9% increase in peak capacity into and out of London St Pancras, plus more carriages on the busiest trains between Liverpool and Nottingham.
More than £5m of improvements at stations and more than £20m on enhancing rolling stock;
Provision of at least 1250 new car parking spaces and 400 more bicycle spaces;
Forecast 90.4% punctuality and reliability by the end of the franchise
The Government will continue to limit annual rises of regulated fares in line with national policy, which is currently RPI+1%.

As with all franchises, unregulated fares will be the responsibility of the operator. In the East Midlands, Stagecoach Midland Rail Limited is expected to increase unregulated fares by an average of RPI+3.4% per annum.

Passengers will benefit from new arrangements to be compensated for delays and poor performance.

ENDS

Notes to Editors:

1. The premium profile for the East Midlands franchise is:

Mar-08 Mar-09 Mar-10 Mar-11 Mar-12 Mar-13 Mar-14 Mar-15
35,651* 64,291 36,461 424 (43,842) (77,355) (98,315) (154,978)

(Nominal, £000s, part years indicated with asterisks, premium numbers in brackets)

2. The parties invited to submit bids for the East Midlands franchise were Arriva Trains East Midlands Limited (Arriva plc); First East Midlands Limited (First Group plc); NXE Trains Limited (National Express Group plc); Stagecoach Midland Rail Limited (Stagecoach Group plc).

3. The new passenger refund system, Delay/Repay, will compensate season ticket holders for delays to journeys they have actually taken, not on the basis of overall performance. This is the same compensation system as currently operates for single, return and weekly ticket holders. Refunds will be on the basis of the proportional daily cost of season tickets, with a 50% single refund for delays of 30-59 minutes, 100% single refund for delays of 60-119 minutes, and 100% return refund for delays of 120 minutes+. This system will be rolled out nationally during the term of each new franchise.

4. More details are available on the Department for Transport website at http://www.dft.gov.uk
I may not have followed the link to read more details....but I didn't misread anything.

So unless I am mistaken that leaves us with the current services per hour

1x Notts Fast
1x Notts Slow
1x Derby slow
1x Sheffield fast
1x Kettering/Corby
1x Lincoln

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:39 pm

richard222 wrote:
dkightley wrote:
You didnt read it correctly, it says there will be five services on the MML.

1 TPH London - Kettering
2 TPH London - Nottingham
1 TPH London - Derby
1 TPH London - Sheffield
Tigermon

Bet you can't find the above in the following! I know what I read! And I didn't misread it!

Stock Market statement
For immediate release: 07.00 22 June 2007

More services and extra capacity for the Midlands
The Department for Transport today announced that Stagecoach Midland Rail Limited (a subsidiary of Stagecoach Group plc) has been awarded the contract to run the East Midlands franchise.

The new franchise will begin on 11th November 2007and end on April 1st 2015. However the DfT has the right to terminate the franchise after six years if the operator is failing to meet agreed performance targets.

The franchise will deliver increased capacity, better performance and the introduction of smartcard technology by 2010.

The East Midlands franchise brings together current Midland Mainline services from London St Pancras and the eastern section of Central Trains. It will receive a subsidy in the early years of the franchise and pay a premium in the later years. Over the seven year and four month life of the franchise a premium of £133m (NPV) will be paid to the Department.

Benefits to passengers include:

An extra hourly Kettering - London service, with agreement to extend this to a new station at Corby
A new direct daily service between Lincoln and London
Two trains an hour between London and the new East Midlands Parkway station from 2008
A 9% increase in peak capacity into and out of London St Pancras, plus more carriages on the busiest trains between Liverpool and Nottingham.
More than £5m of improvements at stations and more than £20m on enhancing rolling stock;
Provision of at least 1250 new car parking spaces and 400 more bicycle spaces;
Forecast 90.4% punctuality and reliability by the end of the franchise
The Government will continue to limit annual rises of regulated fares in line with national policy, which is currently RPI+1%.

As with all franchises, unregulated fares will be the responsibility of the operator. In the East Midlands, Stagecoach Midland Rail Limited is expected to increase unregulated fares by an average of RPI+3.4% per annum.

Passengers will benefit from new arrangements to be compensated for delays and poor performance.

ENDS

Notes to Editors:

1. The premium profile for the East Midlands franchise is:

Mar-08 Mar-09 Mar-10 Mar-11 Mar-12 Mar-13 Mar-14 Mar-15
35,651* 64,291 36,461 424 (43,842) (77,355) (98,315) (154,978)

(Nominal, £000s, part years indicated with asterisks, premium numbers in brackets)

2. The parties invited to submit bids for the East Midlands franchise were Arriva Trains East Midlands Limited (Arriva plc); First East Midlands Limited (First Group plc); NXE Trains Limited (National Express Group plc); Stagecoach Midland Rail Limited (Stagecoach Group plc).

3. The new passenger refund system, Delay/Repay, will compensate season ticket holders for delays to journeys they have actually taken, not on the basis of overall performance. This is the same compensation system as currently operates for single, return and weekly ticket holders. Refunds will be on the basis of the proportional daily cost of season tickets, with a 50% single refund for delays of 30-59 minutes, 100% single refund for delays of 60-119 minutes, and 100% return refund for delays of 120 minutes+. This system will be rolled out nationally during the term of each new franchise.

4. More details are available on the Department for Transport website at http://www.dft.gov.uk
I may not have followed the link to read more details....but I didn't misread anything.

So unless I am mistaken that leaves us with the current services per hour

1x Notts Fast
1x Notts Slow
1x Derby slow
1x Sheffield fast
1x Kettering/Corby
1x Lincoln

You are mistaken - Lincoln will be one train per day (initially at least) which will be an extension of a Nottingham - A fast one, I presume.

tigermon · Post by **tigermon** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:48 pm

dkightley wrote:Bet you can't find the above in the following! I know what I read! And I didn't misread it!

Misread is probably the wrong word to use, however it has been stated that the slow trains for Nottingham and Derby will not join/split at Leicester, and that the Kettering (Corby) service is an extra. Ontop of that the press have said that it will be 5TPH on the MML out of St Pancras.

richard222 · Post by **richard222** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:53 pm

So we think this is the new frequencies

1tph Notts Fast - extended 1tpd to Lincoln???
1tph Notts Slow
1tph Derby slow
1tph Sheffield fast
1tph Corby/Kettering

tigermon · Post by **tigermon** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:56 pm

Correct, that's what has been stated in the press.

jonhewes · Post by **jonhewes** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:19 pm

arabiandisco wrote: You are mistaken - Lincoln will be one train per day (initially at least) which will be an extension of a Nottingham - A fast one, I presume.

Do you mean one train each way, or literally a train to London each day, and then have to change at Nottingham to get back to Lincoln?

I wonder where the service will start from, will it start at Cleethorpes like in the old days?