31 Crash - Wasn't on

trainz1994 · Post by **trainz1994** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:28 pm

Is it just me or did the crash not appear? They had loads on Bugatti Veyron but nothing on Class 31.

southcoasttrains · Post by **southcoasttrains** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:35 pm

Special show next sunday, could feature on that.

250mph in the Bugatti was excellent though, faster than Eurostar lol.

trainz1994 · Post by **trainz1994** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:41 pm

What do you mean?

galvanize · Post by **galvanize** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:45 pm

probably won't be shown next sunday, as it's USA special. Also, they've postponed the crash at short notice following the recent tradgedy on a level crossing in Scotland.

jamesinbolton · Post by **jamesinbolton** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:42 am

It is to be aired later in the season due to the recent tragedy in Scotland.

The BBC decided to pull that episode of the show at the 11th hour surrounding the circumstances of the level crossing accident in Scotland.

danielw2599 · Post by **danielw2599** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:50 pm

jamesinbolton wrote:It is to be aired later in the season due to the recent tragedy in Scotland.

The BBC decided to pull that episode of the show at the 11th hour surrounding the circumstances of the level crossing accident in Scotland.

Which im my opinion was the completly wrong decision.

southcoasttrains · Post by **southcoasttrains** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:44 pm

Agreed, in my opinion. Condolences to the teenager and his family, but lessons do need to be learnt with level crossing safety.

Infact, I don't see why we use similar adverts to what the Australians have on railway safety.

http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/safety/r ... dvert1.wmv - Pedestrian advert.

http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/safety/r ... dvert2.wmv - Motorists advert.

If they don't work, try here - http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/safety/r ... mpaign.asp

Personally I think they are effective.

jamesinbolton · Post by **jamesinbolton** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:27 am

danielw2599 wrote:
Which im my opinion was the completly wrong decision.

I'm afraid I disagree.

As I previously stated however, this was the BBC's call, nothing to do with Network Rail or Top Gear.

I think to air this so shortly after such an incident would have shown extremely poor taste and insensativity, and (understandably) would most likely have drawn a considerable number of complaints.

As for the Australian adverts, I do think that these adverts do deliver a much stronger message and perhaps something along these lines should be shown in the UK.

Elojikal · Post by **Elojikal** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:44 am

So what if the timing was bad and it was insensitive to the relatives? By airing is sooner rather than later they would have reduced the risk of another level crossing incident reoccuring between now and then. Saving lives should come first.

jamesinbolton · Post by **jamesinbolton** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:00 am

Elojikal wrote:So what if the timing was bad and it was insensitive to the relatives? By airing is sooner rather than later they would have reduced the risk of another level crossing incident reoccuring between now and then. Saving lives should come first.

Think about your own relatives? How do you think that would feel?

I'll make this my last post on this thread!

Elojikal · Post by **Elojikal** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:07 am

Think about the relatives of those that may be killed between now and when the feature is finally aired.

Top Gear is the ideal audience for getting the message about the dangers of behaving sensibly at level crossings. Nowhere else will rail safety organisers have a more captive audience willing to take notice. The opportunity shouldn't be left to waste.

Chris23 · Post by **Chris23** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:01 am

You could argue that immediately after a tragedy is exactly the right time to ram home the message. You do need something to make people take notice and unfortunately a tragedy is a good motivator.

I offer every sympathy to the family of the deceased but the higher responsibilty is now to prevent it happening again & if it takes being insensitive then so be it.

Chris

petermakosch · Post by **petermakosch** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:59 am

True, it is sad, but the family might *not* watch Top Gear, so therefore would know nothing about it.
Top Gear could have said about the recent accedent and this is why they WERE showing it. Perhaps ask the family if they would be okay with them showing it.

9/11 still affects some people, but there is plenty of films about that out now isnt there?!
Even the 7/7 bombings. Although not a nice thing, I talk about it as openly as I would cheese, I am not afraid of it, I have acceoted it is a sad thing to happen but this is it, it has happened, you have to get on and get over it. That might seem bad to some people, there are many train drivers who have never gotten over one under and I dont know if i would or not, but at the moment, this is what I feel.

spartacus · Post by **spartacus** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:01 pm

petermakosch wrote:9/11 still affects some people, but there is plenty of films about that out now isnt there?!

Take it to it's logical conclusion and there would never be a car crash, murder, assualt or accidental death on TV. These happen every day in real life, and effect people in the same was as the families of the car crash victims. If that is pulled out of sympathy, maybe none of the above could ever be shown for the above reason, or does a death by 'everyday' means matter less to the producers than one by extraordinary means?

LNERandBR · Post by **LNERandBR** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:18 pm

petermakosch wrote:9/11 still affects some people, but there is plenty of films about that out now isnt there?!

that may be so but did these films come out straight after the event? I think you'll find they came out later after people had time to get over it.

The level crossing film will be shown even if it's later then what it would have been.