87's to Bulgaria

barrymcguire9999 · Post by **barrymcguire9999** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:03 am

87012 & 87019 have left the UK for a new life in Bulgaria, http://www.wnxx.com quotes that they left the UK on 27th December 2006 through the Channel Tunnel. Does anyone know if they have arrived in Bulgaria yet??? and is anyone aware of any pics of 87012/19 en-route whilst in mainland Europe, or can anyone recommend any good websites with current sightings/pics for European railways (Germany probably most likely as 87012/19 probably routed that way....)

Thanks in advance!!!

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:41 pm

no but i imagine they would do last bit of the trip under there own power to impress the goverment and railway authorities there.

simont · Post by **simont** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:41 am

12 is a bit surprising, given that it's The Olympian. Maybe Sofia are going for 2016.

barrymcguire9999 · Post by **barrymcguire9999** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:45 pm

Update to my question with a posting on uk.railway stating that 87012/87019 were sighted still in France on Thursday stabled at Calais Frethun yard.

HTH

n863dwt · Post by **n863dwt** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:59 pm

barrymcguire9999 wrote:Update to my question with a posting on uk.railway stating that 87012/87019 were sighted still in France on Thursday stabled at Calais Frethun yard.

HTH

the most likely reason that they have not yet left calais is because porterbrook/new owner Bulgarian Railways have not yet made complete arangments for the transfer of the locos from france to bulgaria...
as there are no operators who will operate from calais all the way to which ever railway yard is on the bulgarian side of the border (most likely between bulgaria and romania) so as i understand it the locos would need to be hauled from calais to a yard on the border between france and belgium so that a belgian operator or even a german open access operator can operate them through as far as austria before they would need to be hauled by MAV (hungarian railways ) again this is my best guess and estimate based pn many years of working in international transport.

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:44 pm

3 DRS 20's made it to Kosovo in Yugoslavia admittingly 50% of the trip hauled dead because of some of the railways rules about diesels under the wire's and refuelling.

Admittingly Paperwork is the problem these day's not transportation.

barrymcguire9999 · Post by **barrymcguire9999** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:27 am

May be of interest..............

http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... uage_tools

HTH

Barry

southcoasttrains · Post by **southcoasttrains** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:49 am

I would of though 012 would of remained in the UK, shame really.

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:44 am

I think 012 is out of hours legally for British usage before an overhaul is required? Judged to be not worth the work apparently, same sort of reason MML juggle their powercars?

NiallGray · Post by **NiallGray** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:00 am

I'm going to miss them! 87012 especially!

barrymcguire9999 · Post by **barrymcguire9999** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:42 am

Update............finally on the move across Europe!

http://www.bahnnews-austria.at/forum/vi ... php?t=5595

HTH

Barry

bdy26 · Post by **bdy26** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:09 am

Well I hope they take of them! Can't quite believe we're done with 87s, real unsung workhorses. And those 2 were a nice touch at the end. God speed.

NiallGray · Post by **NiallGray** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:17 am

Hate to see them go, but if there's a chance the lifespan of this class could be extended a few more years then I suppose it's all good!