Passenger Consists

[Dave1955]

Hi all,

Could someone please reccomend an easy to understand publication giving typical make up of passenger consists. My main area of interest is LNER and LMS.

Thanks,
Dave

[asharte]

There are a couple of files on this site which give formations / loadings:

Passenger Timetables for the S&C [1020788 bytes] - P_TT_1.zip File ID: 1347 Date: 24 Mar 2002 - 750 Downloads

Passenger train formations on the Settle and Carlisle line [18060 bytes] - TF_1.zip File ID: 1321 Date: 22 Mar 2002 - 862 Downloads

[1321] credits “Passenger Train Formations 1923 – 83â€

[Dave1955]

Many thanks for that Asharte, it will add greatly to my enjoyment of MSTS.

Dave

[karlrestall]

Dave,

If you also want Named Formations as well as plenty of BR Ordinary formations try my site http://www.trainformations.co.uk

Regards

Karl

[petethetim]

Am I right in thinking a Composite carriage was one which had compartments of mixed class?

[karlrestall]

Yes that is correct. Up until 1938 tri composites were running consisting of 1st Class 2nd Class and 3rd Class, after this time, when second was done away with, a composite only contained 1st and 3rd later 2nd or standard class. There were also open coaches that were branded as composites, so it was not just limited to corridor stock.

Regards

Karl

[petethetim]

Thanks For The Info Karl

[Dave1955]

Thanks Karl,

I have your site bookmarked and will certainly be making extensive use of it.

Where would sleeping cars usualy be placed? I am guessing that they would be mid train.

Dave

[petethetim]

I would Imagine away from the Loco on the Sleeper that used to leave Stranraer the back 3 or 4 coaches were always sleepers & maybe 3 or 4 seating carriage && a Parcels full brake

[ianmacmillan]

Sleepers gangway doors to sleepers were always locked and so they would be placed at one end of the train.
A vehicle was always placed between the loco and the first sleeper, usually a parcels van but sometimes a BSK for use of staff travelling on the cushions.

Where seperate portions were involved, each would be a complete train in itself to avoid the need for passengers to pass thru the sleeping cars.

If a breakfast car was added it would be placed between the sleepers and the day coaches with an attendant standing guard at the corridor connection.

Sleeper attendants were very particular about who got into their coaches.
They were no keen on guards walking thru with their dirty boots and we only did so if essential.Otherwise you would be a marked man and they would not bring you a cuppa.

[NiallGray]

IS there a version for BR/privatisation Electrics/Diesels?

I'm looking for WCML combinations if possible.

(Anything from 80s to modern day).

[petethetim]

IS there a version for BR/privatisation Electrics/Diesels?

I'm looking for WCML combinations if possible.

(Anything from 80s to modern day).

Yeah I would be interested in that also

Best Wishes
Peter

http://petemccallsgallery.fotopic.net

[Tonysmedley]

For an authoritative source of train formations, you may be able to pick up a copy of British Railways offical list form a dedicated railway book dealer. I have a copy of the Western Region marshalling for the period 16 May to 2 October 1983 which, in 265 pages, gives the make up of every train running on the region at those times. I am happy to give anyone info if they want, short of copying the whole thing!

Tony

[asharte]

For the GWR there's "Train Formations & Carriage Workings of the Great Western Railway" by W.S. Becket.

Very detailed, but main line only. More info from
http://www.transportdiversions.com/publ ... pubid=3658