Can I make a suggestion(Please read)

depman2004 · Post by **depman2004** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:26 am

From all the recent developments,flaming,CD removal topics
Do you all think it is now time to forget and just move on FOR THE GOOD FUTURE OF UKTS and what we will have in the future.
Yes we are all angry myself included, there has been a few posts that I have refrained myself from venting my anger.
But I have seen what matt wrote and he has been trying to calm things down for all the benefit of us and I respect that.
I am in no way trying to belittle anybody but am saying this for all of us here on ukts.
We have a lot to look forward to with other train sims being released also.

Just my own observation so please dont take offense..

johndibben · Post by **johndibben** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:46 am

The point has clearly been reached where this is such a hot potato that logic dictates you have to back off as mud flung around has a habit of ending up where it wasn't meant to.

Let no one be under the idea that memories will be erased and discussion will continue somewhere. Actions are taken and people can't be whipped up and turned off at will.

Further discussions of this subject on UKTS does appear pointless.

The situation is now clear and while we're posting on here, we're not moving forwards.

Cheers

John

dkightley · Post by **dkightley** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:03 pm

And there are things to look forward to........

The CD replacement programme is moving ahead at great pace.

There's the Gowin to Knowear project to be completed.

There are routes under development to look forward to.

The first UKTrainSimLive event for 2006 is on the 20th/21st January.

There are two new simulators due for release this year.

And I've probably missed some.......

2006 WILL be a good year!

Doug

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:28 pm

Hi All
Here is some really good news

I have no objection to free downloads of routes containing my work and accept that there has to be funding to pay for bandwidth and other costs associated with running Ukts. What I would take exception to is any increase in premium membership to cover the costs of redistributing the routes affected by my actions. Not only would that amount to once again charging for freeware but would be designed to show me in a bad light.

Regards,

~Terry~

But basically it means all UK freeware routes can be hosted on UKTS , in their current form.
Perhaps well see Skipton as a download....who knows.?
Cheers
Jon

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:58 am

dkightley wrote:And I've probably missed some.......

2006 WILL be a good year!

Yes, I have a birthday this year!

Martin

RobertM · Post by **RobertM** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:14 am

saddletank wrote:
Yes, I have a birthday this year!

Martin

Like the rest of us

RobertM

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:16 am

jbilton wrote:Hi All
Here is some really good news

I have no objection to free downloads of routes containing my work and accept that there has to be funding to pay for bandwidth and other costs associated with running Ukts. What I would take exception to is any increase in premium membership to cover the costs of redistributing the routes affected by my actions. Not only would that amount to once again charging for freeware but would be designed to show me in a bad light.

Regards,

~Terry~

But basically it means all UK freeware routes can be hosted on UKTS , in their current form.
Perhaps well see Skipton as a download....who knows.?
Cheers
Jon

Hi All
Further to this, Terry has now confirmed, that this does extend to stock used in activities for a route.
Therefore any route could appear in the download library, in its current form immediately.
This could include 'Skipton' by Pat Dalton, if he so wished.
There has been no agreement as to the pricing of UKTS distributed CDs.
Therefore these will continue to be replaced with different versions to the original routes.And obviously subject to the time constraints of producing suitable replacement objects.
The only problem to this I can for-see is packaged activities, where the different route build numbers, can cause problems.
Cheers
Jon

sp762 · Post by **sp762** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:29 am

Actually, I've had my birthday taken away for being too efficient.

Alas, I still get older.

lumpchase · Post by **lumpchase** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:36 am

route builds would only be affected (AFAIK) if you edit the track or road layout, as the solution the CD Replacement Programme is working on is to replace shape files like for like (or at least name for name) it shouldn't make a difference.

Tony

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:12 am

Tony is correct, swapping out 'dumb' scenery objects for others does not affect the tdb or rdb version.

Martin

fadedGlory · Post by **fadedGlory** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:23 pm

jbilton wrote:Hi All
Here is some really good news

I have no objection to free downloads of routes containing my work and accept that there has to be funding to pay for bandwidth and other costs associated with running Ukts. What I would take exception to is any increase in premium membership to cover the costs of redistributing the routes affected by my actions. Not only would that amount to once again charging for freeware but would be designed to show me in a bad light.

Regards,

~Terry~

But basically it means all UK freeware routes can be hosted on UKTS , in their current form.
Perhaps well see Skipton as a download....who knows.?
Cheers
Jon

Jon,

I have stayed out of this discussion so far, but can you please let Terry know that I very much appreciate his decision to continue allowing the free download of routes that contain his files? I have two (modest) routes hosted here and they both make extensive use of Terry's objects. I don't know if I would have had the energy to re-open them and replace his objects with others.

Cheers,

Jur