Scotrail Sleeper

jporter · Post by **jporter** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:37 am

Hi all,

can anyone tell mewhere the Scotrail sleeper operates too/from please. it will help me when I am doing my activities for the highland mainline.

many thanks.

james

jporter · Post by **jporter** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:27 am

another thing plesae, does anyone know the length of the trains?

37180sirdyfed · Post by **37180sirdyfed** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:39 am

stuartpalmer wrote:From time to time people ask about the formation of the Inverness/Aberdeen/Fort William sleeper. As I had a few mintues to spare last night (24 Nov 2005) before boarding, I thought I'd write down the formation for the record.

From the front (as it was at Euston):

90 021 Railfreight Distribution (very reassuring)
Sleeper Car G - Fort William
Sleeper Car F - Fort William
Sleeper Car E - Aberdeen
Sleeper Car D - Aberdeen
Sleeper Car C - Aberdeen
Sleeper Car B - Aberdeen
Lounge Car (unlettered) - Aberdeen
Seated Car A - Aberdeen
Sleeper Car P - Inverness
Sleeper Car N - Inverness
Sleeper Car M - Inverness
Sleeper Car L - Inverness
Sleeper Car K - Inverness
Sleeper Car J - Inverness
Lounge Car (unlettered) - Inverness
Seated Car H - Inverness.

If anyone wants to use this to write an activity for Highland Main Line, remember that from Edinburgh the formation of the Inverness section is reversed, i.e. with Car H leading.

My dedication to duty did not, I regret, extend to getting up at 3am to see what they were putting on the front of the Inverness section (and I didn't have chance to check at Aviemore), but it's usually an EWS 67 (or occasionally a clapped-out 47).

stuartpalmer · Post by **stuartpalmer** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:38 am

Also see:

http://www.firstgroup.com/scotrail/tt/1 ... oute27.pdf

jporter · Post by **jporter** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:33 pm

cheers, that is great stuff

nigelgresley · Post by **nigelgresley** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:16 am

Anyone know what time it does the split as Edinburgh?

stuartpalmer · Post by **stuartpalmer** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:11 am

Combines somewhere between 1 and 2am on the way south and splits sometime between 3 and 4am on the way north. Can't be any more exact than that and in any case it seems to be a bit of a "moveable feast" depending on when the various bits arrive!

yorkie · Post by **yorkie** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:23 am

stuartpalmer wrote:Combines somewhere between 1 and 2am on the way south and splits sometime between 3 and 4am on the way north. Can't be any more exact than that and in any case it seems to be a bit of a "moveable feast" depending on when the various bits arrive!

Yeah that's roughly right, closer to 0100 south and 0400 north.

I know people who have arrived on the ex-Fort William southbound and then got the Aberdeen northbound, they had to leave the station for nearly 3 hours as it closed!

nigelgresley · Post by **nigelgresley** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:11 pm

stuartpalmer wrote:Combines somewhere between 1 and 2am on the way south and splits sometime between 3 and 4am on the way north. Can't be any more exact than that and in any case it seems to be a bit of a "moveable feast" depending on when the various bits arrive!

Thanks. And I take it that the loco (class 90) used for the Edinburgh-London section is the one which gets dumped in one of the bay sidings on the London (ECML) side of Waverley station during the day?

87015 · Post by **87015** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:34 pm

i have been told the up Inverness beds should be a GBRf 87 x Edinburgh on friday night via the ECML!!!

bsbnns · Post by **bsbnns** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:52 pm

Errr... Just checked trust...the sleepers pathed up the ECML on friday nothing about GBRf traction though..