Making Tracks Freeware Class 33s

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:14 pm

I have just been playing with the MT freeware Class 33s but when I try and brake, not even Supression/Continuous Service Brake slows me down very well. What could be causing this?

parsfan · Post by **parsfan** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:18 pm

Check the brake fluid. Could be th brake shoes, Kwik fit might be able to do a deal.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:23 pm

Anyone have any serious answers?

kirkheath · Post by **kirkheath** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:24 pm

It will something to do with "max brake force" etc... try there

ogwilliam · Post by **ogwilliam** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:45 pm

not such a daft answer, but have you checked you're not running air braked stock with vacuum brakes or vice versa? any mixing causes a nightmare (esp on the lovely highland route!)

chrisiveson · Post by **chrisiveson** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:46 pm

I found that running on Swanage, had to apply, then release and re-apply on occasion to get the train to slow.
Are you driving with a consist or light engine? If a consist, is it the same type of braking system? ie: vacuum or air.
Have you tried using the loco independent brake? (square brackets)
How about trying over at MakingTracks? They are very friendly and helpful over there.

Regards

Chris.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:53 pm

Thanks guys! My next question, is it possible to change a loco from Air Brakes to Vaccum Brakes? I have made the loco have it's own folder, reanmed the files etc so any changes won't interfere with any current consists.

Post by **codrivermike** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:09 pm

Oh b****r!! I've just spent ages creating an activity with two 26's and Mk1 stock. i thought they were hard to slow down and now I know why. Right. Back to the drawing board.

chrisiveson · Post by **chrisiveson** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:11 pm

Yes you can,
change this bit,

BrakeEquipmentType( "Triple_valve, Auxilary_reservoir, Emergency_brake_reservoir" )

BrakeSystemType( "Air_single_pipe" )
MaxBrakeForce( 35kN )

To this:

BrakeEquipmentType( "Triple_valve, Auxilary_reservoir, Emergency_brake_reservoir" )

BrakeSystemType( "Vacuum_single_pipe" )
MaxBrakeForce( 49kN )

Chris.

chrisiveson · Post by **chrisiveson** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:14 pm

Mike,
The blue/grey Mk1s are available for either air or vacuum.

Chris.

ogwilliam · Post by **ogwilliam** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:14 pm

I think conbuilder (available from the quickpics on the front page of uktrainsim) allows you to change the .eng files pretty easily, esp the most recent version. Takes a little bit of learning but well worth the effort. Also allows you to get around those annoying problems when the engine has chain couplers and your stock has automatics....

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:14 pm

ogwilliam wrote:I think conbuilder (available from the quickpics on the front page of uktrainsim) allows you to change the .eng files pretty easily, esp the most recent version. Takes a little bit of learning but well worth the effort. Also allows you to get around those annoying problems when the engine has chain couplers and your stock has automatics....

Yeah, I am constantly finding out things ConBuilder can do that I didn't know about! Changing the coupler type takes just 2/3 clicks with ConBuilder - superb utility!

Thanks for your help Guys.

mikesimpson · Post by **mikesimpson** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:22 pm

Conbuilder will allow you to change the Power or Coupling types only. The latest Route-Riter will however allow you to change Brake Types as well and allow you to add Front couplings as well as rear couplings to any .eng/wag.

Moreover RR will edit multiple files at once rather than having to select one file at a time for modifying.

Mike.