Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch Railway Route

LeeEAS · Post by **LeeEAS** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:12 pm

I'm surprised that no-one has made the Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch Railway route avalible to download for MSTS on UKTrainsim.com or even anywhere at all! Does anyone know about the RH&D Railway???

It's a miniature guage railway in south of Kent (in Britain). It's runs from Dungeness to Hythe.

I would love to be the first person to make the route, but unfortunatly I'm a 'Full-time' Student, so I just don't have time. Plus I don't have MSTS Modeler.

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:22 pm

LeeEAS wrote: Does anyone know about the RH&D Railway???

Hi
Yes I do.....and so do quite a few others.
If you do a quick search of the forums you'll find it comes up quite often.
Cheers
Jon

PS If you think your busy as a "Student"...wait till you have wife, kids....and have to work for a living .

y2flexy · Post by **y2flexy** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:27 pm

i swear i had more free time when i was a full time student than i do now! excuses

hehe

lateagain · Post by **lateagain** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:12 pm

Don't get me wrong here. The RH&D is a fabulous little railway and this little known area of the country has much to recommend it from a scenery point of view. It's pretty unique. Unfortunately like much of Britain's "Seaside" it did rather die at the same time the railways did.

Cheap flights and cars "did for" trains and seaside holidays at about the same time. There are plenty of examples of a past granduer, crumbling hotels, shabby "promenades" at just about every seaside destination that was once fashionable.

That said the line still plays a real part in the local community as I understand it BUT.....

I do wonder about it's potential in MSTS?

The scaled down "real" locomotives have massive appeal when you see them for real but perhaps don't lend themselves to believable portrayal in MSTS? For those not familiar with it (don't suppose that's many on this forum?) it's not just narrow guage it's a miniaturised railway. It's unique landscape would also need pretty detailed modelling to be convincing. This has been done in some routes but others through similar landscapes have been justifiably criticised for poor scenery.

I hope someone proves me wrong. But personally I'd rather visit it than simulate it?

Geoff

timbgray64 · Post by **timbgray64** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:36 pm

lateagain wrote:Don't get me wrong here. The RH&D is a fabulous little railway and this little known area of the country has much to recommend it from a scenery point of view. It's pretty unique. Unfortunately like much of Britain's "Seaside" it did rather die at the same time the railways did.

Cheap flights and cars "did for" trains and seaside holidays at about the same time. There are plenty of examples of a past granduer, crumbling hotels, shabby "promenades" at just about every seaside destination that was once fashionable.

That said the line still plays a real part in the local community as I understand it BUT.....

I do wonder about it's potential in MSTS?

The scaled down "real" locomotives have massive appeal when you see them for real but perhaps don't lend themselves to believable portrayal in MSTS? For those not familiar with it (don't suppose that's many on this forum?) it's not just narrow guage it's a miniaturised railway. It's unique landscape would also need pretty detailed modelling to be convincing. This has been done in some routes but others through similar landscapes have been justifiably criticised for poor scenery.

I hope someone proves me wrong. But personally I'd rather visit it than simulate it?

Geoff

I see what you are trying to say but surely a highly detailed route with 8 & 1/2 miles of double track and 5 miles of single track, 11 steam loco's, 2 mainline diesels, 3 pway loco's, over 50 coaches and various pway wagons. Then you have an interesting route with plenty of potential for activities.

Tim
(Volunteer RH&DR Driver & Signalman)

depman2004 · Post by **depman2004** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:24 pm

I have also wondered why this route was never thought of being built,
I think it could have the potential to be a good route for msts in the hands of a good route builder.
And as the last post states from the RH&D volunteer timbgray64 it does have potential..

lateagain · Post by **lateagain** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:27 pm

Hi Tim,

There's absolutely no doubting the potential of the route. The "marshes" are also a special landscape. The only routes that have come near to putting the level of detail into "simple" countryside to make it convincing are, IMHO, the 3DTS UK routes. The SVR is good but has the advantage of a varied and far from level scenery.

To make flat areas of scenery have convincing depth has only been achieved in a small % of MSTS routes. I also worry about whether the minature loco's would look convincing? They are, as you know, not exact replicas so simply "scaling down" a full size loco might look a tads naff??

You'll have to correct me here, but isn't there some issue with realistic loco physics in "true scale" NG stuff in the sim as well?

I don't want to be too negative, it's just that it would be a pity not to do the real thing justice?

Geoff

RobertM · Post by **RobertM** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:04 pm

jbilton wrote:
LeeEAS wrote: Does anyone know about the RH&D Railway???

Hi
Yes I do.....and so do quite a few others.
If you do a quick search of the forums you'll find it comes up quite often.
Cheers
Jon

PS If you think your busy as a "Student"...wait till you have wife, kids....and have to work for a living .

Just getting back too the subject, i looked around the forum and there are 3 pages of results, some of them have nothing too do with the Romney Heith and Dimchurch

Can you be a bit more specific, for everyones benefit

RobertM

terryshan · Post by **terryshan** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:54 pm

I do say, you ought to get your spelling of Romney Hythe and Dymchurch railway correct.
any way this world famous smallest commercial railway is steeped in history,you should read up on it some day.Laurel and Hardy just loved it.

LeeEAS · Post by **LeeEAS** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:02 pm

terryshan wrote:I do say, you ought to get your spelling of Romney Hythe and Dymchurch railway correct.
any way this world famous smallest commercial railway is steeped in history,you should read up on it some day. Laurel and Hardy just loved it.

Are you a fan of Laurel and Hardy, because I am!

MuzTrem · Post by **MuzTrem** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:04 pm

I also worry about whether the minature loco's would look convincing? They are, as you know, not exact replicas so simply "scaling down" a full size loco might look a tads naff??

A number of excellent 15" gauge locos have already been produced for MSTS, notably by Tim Elsby who made the SMR "Sutton Belle/Flyer" and R&ER "Lady Wakefield". And Nvincer is currently constucting a model for RHDR No 12/14:
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... c&&start=0
So I don't think 15" locos are an issue!

trainlover123 · Post by **trainlover123** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:06 pm

Hi,

Don't forget the VoR Tank reskins Dale did for me! Updated files with .ENG files in to be uploaded soon.

MuzTrem · Post by **MuzTrem** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:19 pm

Yes...I asked him if he could do one for my Garden Festival route, I havn't heard from him since

trainlover123 · Post by **trainlover123** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:28 pm

Hi,

He has been VERY busy recently, so he's had no time.

JonathonAG · Post by **JonathonAG** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:44 pm

It is very surprising this route has not been made for msts, it is the most famous minature railway in britain

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