London Transport R Stock Great Model Congratulations

johncas · Post by **johncas** » Mon May 20, 2002 2:07 pm

London Transport R Stock Great Model Congratulations

I Thinck this model is great wotking wipers
opening doors
lights

I real profeshioonal job
keep up the good work
An I hope we see other london tube trains with opening doors or other UK Emu's with opening doors
GREAT JOB

corkscorpion · Post by **corkscorpion** » Mon May 20, 2002 5:42 pm

Absolutely wonderful - all I can say is roll on some more LU rolling stock.

These models are great and everyone should download them

qzdcg8 · Post by **qzdcg8** » Tue May 21, 2002 2:01 am

I concur - looks great...
...now if someone can do some tube stock e.g. central or circle I can get the LUL route building kit ready.

Steve N

corkscorpion · Post by **corkscorpion** » Tue May 21, 2002 3:06 am

Cool - bring it on

thecaretaker · Post by **thecaretaker** » Sat May 25, 2002 1:14 am

What a great model. A very professional job indeed!

Just could do with that authentic London Underground train SOUND of the electric motor as it pulls away. That would make it even more fun!

Any offers anyone?

Paul

streeter · Post by **streeter** » Sun May 26, 2002 1:04 pm

Absolutely fabulous models! I was a guard on the District Line in the late 70's and remember the "R" stock well - only small criticisms (and intended constructively - no dissing at all!)

1. "R" stock were never painted red. The red trains were "CP" (Guard's position inside rear passenger car) or "CO" stock (Guard's position inside rear driver's cab)

2. "R" stock trains were always in 7-car formation - consequently couldn't operate Edgware Road - Putney Bridge services or the Circle Line.

3. The Driving Motor Cars of the "R" stock were mostly converted "Q" stock. They were painted a silvery white colour to try to match the unpainted aluminium of the new "R" stock trailer cars. These driving motor cars had different passenger window appearance ( 4 centre panes ) to the new "R" stock cars (like the model). Only a few new "R" stock driving motor cars were purchased in 1947.

4. The "CO" and "CP" stock were, once again, formed of rebuilt "Q" stock cars and these were formed in 6, 7 or 8 car formations. However, by 1978, no 8-car formations were used. The 6 car versions were used on the Edgware Road - Putney Bridge (or Wimbledon) shuttle and on the Circle Line (District Line operated on Sundays only exclusively by Parsons Green depot!)

London Transport were forever innovative until the Government began to carve it up. It is intersting to note that we had:

(1) An "R" stock with silver roof (monitoring if that had any effect on interior temperature)

(2) A "CP" stock trailer car with interior dividers similar to an open plan Mark 1 coach!

(3) An "R" stock fitted with Electric Door motors (passengers complained 'cos there was no warning air hiss when the doors were about to close and they were too powerful for them to jam a foot between the closing doors!

Finally - a very big THANK YOU to Richard Scott for producing this model - you've brought back some very happy memories!

Cheers

Ian

RichardScott · Post by **RichardScott** » Tue May 28, 2002 7:34 am

Thanks Ian, your comments are appreciated, particularly as someone who worked on the real thing.

My main source of reference for the model was 'The R Stock Story' by Piers Connor, (an excellent and cheap booklet, get it from http://www.transportdiversions.com). I used the drawings and photos from that book. But I have since discovered that what I made was a bit of a mish mash of a number of prototypes (CO/CP, R49 and R to name a few). So I should call it an 'impression ' of the R Stock. Tim Hubbard has started digging deep as well and has uncovered all sorts of variations as well.

Thanks again

Richard Scott

streeter · Post by **streeter** » Tue May 28, 2002 7:59 am

Thanks for the booklet info - I'll get me mitts on a copy!

One thing I forgot to mention - What a fantastic job you've done on the car's interior view! It's absolutely stunning - even down to "glass" interior partitions and typical "LT" wall mounted posters!

Give yourself thunderous applause!

Cheers

Ian

drjimi · Post by **drjimi** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 6:17 pm

Richard, please check your private forum mail. I've been trying to reach you for a few days. I have been working on a 3D realistic cab, sounds and eng file/controls for your R Stock train and am now at the point I'd like to release them, with your permission. Please advise if this is acceptable to you, and how you would prefer the updated parts to be distributed (e.g. total train update, update with just new parts, etc.). There is interest in these updates in the USA also (train-sim.com).

Thanks & regards, Jimi

RichardScott · Post by **RichardScott** » Fri Sep 06, 2002 9:08 am

Jimi

I don't seem to have received any mail from you recently (although it is possible that I've got a mail problem). I will look into this, I don't want to miss out on messages.

I am more than happy that you release your additions to the R stock (here and at train-sim.com if you like). If you want to release it as a complete package, with my model, that's fine. However, remember that over here in the UK a lot of us have limited bandwidth. So you might want to make an 'addon' version as well.

I look forward to seeing your work.

Cheers

Richard Scott

RichardScott · Post by **RichardScott** » Fri Sep 06, 2002 9:13 am

Allright, time to fess up! I wasn't checking my messages here - sorry. The cab looks great, thanks for your work.

Cheers

Richard

drjimi · Post by **drjimi** » Fri Sep 06, 2002 5:19 pm

Richard -- many thanks for your approval to upload! I now expect to do so tomorrow, to both train-sim and UKtrainsim. I will also provide a smaller "update only" version, however the new cab contains detailed 640 and 1024 ACE files and is not too small.

I'm glad you like the cab view - the comperssed picture I uploaded to train-sim doesn't really do it justice. I believe you'll like the new sounds too. About as realistic as my memory allows (I'm an ex-Brit who used to live about 30 miles from London and rode the tube a lot in the 60s and 70s). I'll include a Readme-Update.txt that will detail all the changes (eng file) and new additions, and of course credit you appropriatley as the original model creator.

I'll release the kit as a Beta 1.0 and strongly welcome feedback as to its appearance and performance. I've based the performance on a 6-car unit modeling known parameters (e.g. braking, acceleration, top speed) as closely as I can. The TubePrune site was a good source of info.

My thanks to you also for creating this unit. It brought back many memories and its quality inspired me to try and create the cab and other additions.

Thanks and best regards, Jimi

TomB · Post by **TomB** » Sun Sep 08, 2002 11:13 am

No offence, but that cab looks nothing like an R stock cab! It's a C stock cab! Anyways, it will do nicely when (and if) i ever release my C stock reskin

.

TB

DaveR · Post by **DaveR** » Sun Sep 08, 2002 12:28 pm

drjimi wrote:Richard Scott did a stunning job with his R Stock train, I felt I'd like to ty and make a cab for it. Unfortunately, I couldn't find R Stock pictures, so I based it on a late C Stock unit.

It was already stated that it was a C stock cab for the above reasons, I think it excellent and those sounds

Thanks jimi

TomB · Post by **TomB** » Sun Sep 08, 2002 12:35 pm

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