ProTrain This ProTrain that

ChrisEllis · Post by **ChrisEllis** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:28 pm

Noticed Amazon have got a few of these goin at Â£10 each.

Which ones are the best seen as there are so many out there?

Thanks

simont · Post by **simont** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:36 pm

In order of quality, I'd say:

3
Tauernbahn
2
Karwendelbahn
4
Semmering
1
(Don't have the others)

1 is the only one that really looks dated, but it's still probably worth a look- the Rhine Valley is one of my favourite railways, and there's scope for a lot of activities.

bigvern · Post by **bigvern** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:52 pm

A couple of the Austrian routes suffered from some QA issues, compared to their German routes. Semmering and Karwendelbahn left a fair bit of the terrain in RE green and K'bahn had a few locations where bridges were't aligned correctly or track/roads had substantial gaps between the terrain - though there's no doubting the climb out of Innsbruck is impressive.

qzdcg8 · Post by **qzdcg8** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:51 am

bigvern wrote:A couple of the Austrian routes suffered from some QA issues, compared to their German routes. Semmering and Karwendelbahn left a fair bit of the terrain in RE green and K'bahn had a few locations where bridges were't aligned correctly or track/roads had substantial gaps between the terrain - though there's no doubting the climb out of Innsbruck is impressive.

I liked the stock in KBahn - the ET420's are juuuust perrrfect!

MartinH · Post by **MartinH** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:26 am

Whichever you buy, you won't be disappointed, although don't expect the sort of detailed scenery that you get with routes like SVR and Swanage here in the UK. I was particularly disappointed by Semmering. From a route point of view, I still think that the Rhine Valley (PT1) is great to drive, but you don't get much rolling stock. The later ones are better value for money in this respect.

Martin

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:23 am

MartinH wrote:although don't expect the sort of detailed scenery that you get with routes like SVR and Swanage here in the UK

Lets not forget when making BOLD statements, that the average ProTrain route is over 10 times longer than the likes of SVR, and the authors certainly dont have the same level of access to the line as those at BlueArrowTS.

simont · Post by **simont** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:28 am

The scenery is very good though, very convincing as real-life scenery, and the level of detail is actually quite high.

ChrisEllis · Post by **ChrisEllis** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:30 pm

Ok thanks guys, Ordered Protrain 2+3 from Amazon and Protrain 4 from UKTS. Will get a few more next month.

MartinH · Post by **MartinH** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:57 pm

My comment about Protrain scenery wasn't a criticism. These routes are very different beasts to Swanage and SVR and you wouldn't expect that much detail. Even so, I was a little disappointed by Semmering in this respect. What I did find excellent on the German routes was the artwork for the buildings. These are very authentic.

Martin

unionpacific · Post by **unionpacific** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:20 pm

Chris,
Can you let me know how you got on with Amazon,ie.did they send the order ok ect.

I have Protrain 1 (Rhine Valley) and Protrain 2 (Saxony),and can't fault them.

On a slightly different note, whats the difference between the German Railroads Add-ons and the German Trains Add-ons?
Thank,
Paul.

joea1 · Post by **joea1** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:00 pm

Don't buy PT2! It is included in Great Electirc Locmotives, which throws in some extra stuff. Great route, I was very pleased with it.

nelson · Post by **nelson** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:18 pm

I bought Pro Train 2 months ago, great if you want a long drive with a lot of scenery, plus you can get a bit of speed up, SVR Cambrian and WSR are beautiful and have no comparison as far as scenery goes but they're only short and you're limited to 25 mph which can be a bit of a drag, unless you're one of the old boys looking for a bit of nostalgia

ChrisEllis · Post by **ChrisEllis** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:42 pm

joea1 wrote:Don't buy PT2! It is included in Great Electirc Locmotives, which throws in some extra stuff. Great route, I was very pleased with it.

Ta managed to change order before dispatch.

streamline · Post by **streamline** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:26 pm

unionpacific wrote:Chris,

On a slightly different note, whats the difference between the German Railroads Add-ons and the German Trains Add-ons?
Thank,
Paul.

Hallo!
German Railroads addons are complete routes with rolling stock and activities.

The main thing in German Trains addons are locomotives (renewed and in different liveries). Some wagons, activities for the German Railroads routes and updates for these routes are added.
You can have a look at their website http://www.german-railroads.de/ . You must look at the German version of the site, because the latest packs aren't in the English version. You'll also find some screenshots of the rolling stock there.

Keep on steamin'!
Dietmar

joea1 · Post by **joea1** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:09 pm

All these addons are highly reccommendable. Did anyone notice that there a noise when you go over points. A non-existent feature in other addons.