Re Overhead Catenary

stephenholmes · Post by **stephenholmes** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:01 am

Hi everyone
This is just a general question about missing overhead catenary in Northwest Route.
Does anybody know if a patch has been issued that would create the missing overhead on this Route.
It seems a shame that a really good route like this has been let down by missing overhead catenary.
Class 86 and 87s do look funny with their pantographs just stuck in the air running on sattelite electricity.
Regards Stephen.

Website · Post by **Easilyconfused** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:24 am

I presume you are referring to the North West England V2 route ?

If so the readme file states :

As only part of the route is electrified in real life, and the limitations of MSTS means that you cannot only part electrify, as a compromise I have chosen to electrify, but have placed the overhead cables at a hight to render them invisible, however, overhead gantries have been placed on the appropriate main lines.

Unfortunately this is a defect in MSTS rather than the route.

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:33 am

many european routes use fake wire models when making a line that is both OHE and diesel. However this doesnt work for gradients.

Cant NWE do this? as it does seem odd having watched the line at Warley that this is no OHE but the masts are there.

stephenholmes · Post by **stephenholmes** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:16 pm

Hi all
back again I am referring to Northwest Route Version 2.1
I do think it's a shame that the pantographs on electric locos aren't in contact with the overhead.
However I didn't realise this is due to constraints of MSTS I assumed that because the Woodhead Route is electrified and looks pleasing when driving an em1 or em2 etc I assumed the missing overhead on Nortwest Route was an ommision
Regards and thankyou for answering my question Stephen.

ianmacmillan · Post by **ianmacmillan** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:19 pm

The NWE route does have overhead wires.

Its just that they are 1500 ft in the air.

You can bring them back down by opening the NWE.trk file and changing the line

OverheadWireHeight ( 1500.2 )

to

OverheadWireHeight ( 5.7 )

Its up to you whether you prefer wires on unelectrified parts of the route or not.

stephenholmes · Post by **stephenholmes** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:10 pm

Hi Ian
Thankyou for clarifying this matter
When it was mentioned earlier that through the constraints of MSTS you cannot have electrified and un electrified routes together in MSTS that would explain why on Woodhead on the non electrified route ie between Ashburys and say Romiley there are wires stuck unsupported in the air and that is the trade-off so to speak. for having the main line through to Woodhead with the catenary visible throughout.
Thanks again for clarifying this matter regards Stephen.

qzdcg8 · Post by **qzdcg8** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:44 pm

stephenholmes wrote:... on Woodhead on the non electrified route ie between Ashburys and say Romiley there are wires stuck unsupported in the air and that is the trade-off...

Hyde to Romiley shouldn't really be part of the route - it is my local line and where the Woodhead route started life over 3 years ago...

stephenholmes · Post by **stephenholmes** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:24 pm

Hi Steve
I take on board your comment that the line between Romiley and Ashburys isn't part of the Woodhead Route. speaking of which I think it's a great route to run I remember it well and was sorry when it closed
Also I think you have modelled Reddish Depot brilliantly it captures the feel of the place very well indeed.
Regards Stephen

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