The Lickey

bristolian · Post by **bristolian** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:11 pm

Hello, I'm new to MSTS, having migrated from BVE...

Is anybody here producing, or thinking of producing the Lickey?
That would certainly provide a good test for locos etc, and provide for interesting activities, including banking, and holding freights back running down the incline.

best wishes, Bob.

nwallace · Post by **nwallace** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:51 pm

Whats the Lickey?

nwallace · Post by **nwallace** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:52 pm

Whats the Lickey?

alan2 · Post by **alan2** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:48 pm

The lickey incline,

To my knowledge I don't think anyone is producing the lickey incline as of the moment.

If you are thinking about producing it

Good luck and I look forwards to it

Will be interesting to drive, Dad mentioned doing the route but he won't get round to It I'm affraid.

I keep him way too busy with various testing Items on my route and his little Beighton Junction project

terrycunliffe · Post by **terrycunliffe** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 11:59 pm

alan2 wrote:The lickey incline,

To my knowledge I don't think anyone is producing the lickey incline as of the moment.

If you are thinking about producing it

Good luck and I look forwards to it Will be interesting to drive, Dad mentioned doing the route but he won't get round to It I'm affraid.

I keep him way too busy with various testing Items on my route and his little Beighton Junction project

Is that the Lickey around Owdam???? If so, too steep a challenge!

longbow · Post by **longbow** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:30 am

The Lickey incline is a 2 mile stretch of line from Bromsgrove to Blackwell on the old Midland Railway route from Bristol to Derby. Its gradient of 1 in 37 makes it the steepest mainline gradient in Britain. It demanded some exotic banking engines, such as the 0-10-0 "Big Bertha" tank and 2-8-8-2 Garratts in steam days and Class 37s, 47s and currently Class 60s in the modern era.

trainmad · Post by **trainmad** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 8:13 am

There was a 9f as a banker, (took over from Big Bertha.)

qzdcg8 · Post by **qzdcg8** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:47 pm

longbow wrote:The Lickey incline is a 2 mile stretch of line from Bromsgrove to Blackwell on the old Midland Railway route from Bristol to Derby. Its gradient of 1 in 37 makes it the steepest mainline gradient in Britain.

Just slightly steeper than the 1 in 40 of the Worsborough Bank on Woodhead. ELR has a 1 in 28'ish I believe - a photo has been posted elsewhere.

rwaceyw · Post by **rwaceyw** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:50 pm

Yep, but it didn't exist until 1993

David

alan2 · Post by **alan2** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:12 pm

Only exists because the Manchester tramway is in the way.

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:04 pm

Hi
Good link here
http://www.locoperformance.co.uk/lickey.htm

Just wondering though...isnt it included with the MLSWR route

bristolian · Post by **bristolian** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 2:14 pm

Hi
Good link here
http://www.locoperformance.co.uk/lickey.htm

Just wondering though...isnt it included with the MLSWR route

The Lickey is indeed on there, but it leaves a LOT to be desired. The gradient is too short, in no way constant with peaks and troughs in it. My run up it with a Black 5 with 6 on was made easily at 20% regulator, and 15% cut-off. Speed never fell below 50. Somehow, that doesn't seem too real???
I'll maybe look at creating the Lickey, from Bromsgrove sidings to Blackwell, including space for attaching to bankers, and for them to drop off.

Best wishes, Bob.

bigvern · Post by **bigvern** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:31 pm

To do it justice, you would really have to include it as part of a Bristol to Birmingham route and it's unlikely at this stage many route builders (including myself) would be contemplating a fresh start on a 90 mile + route.

bristolian · Post by **bristolian** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:50 pm

Hello all.
I am extremely new to MSTS, having just come across from BVE. If I am able to get my head around route building, and that my attempt at the Lickey would work well enough, THEN I would certainly attempt to extend it.
My initial idea for the Lickey arose out of its' performance and operational interests.

Best wishes to all, Bob.

rwaceyw · Post by **rwaceyw** » Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:51 pm

GO for it, a small route like this with a stretch of line, and sidings at each end would be great for learning from, and good to extend to...go for it

.

David

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