Train Failure activity for LBE

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 11:25 am

hi there, im doing an activity for LBE which has you using an old NSE 47 (atm) to pick up a broken down 4VEP. The problem is that said 47 will only pull the VEP at 40 MPH making it essentially a long slow run. Can anyone recommend anything other than a 66 to to use that can haul it a bit faster, say at least 60MPH. Also, no 73s. If not, i will just leave the 47 in and make it a long slow drag.

basildd · Post by **basildd** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 11:35 am

There would have been far more likelyhood of a Class 33 (either single or in multiple) that we would use to rescue failed EMU's (thats from my experience as Sen Power Controller for NSE).

alrispoli · Post by **alrispoli** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:06 am

Yes I agree with the above. Usually (if possible) a Bagpiped (so called because they have the jumpers at waist level as the slam door units do) would do the honours.

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 9:59 am

im doing a modern day activity where the 47 is waiting to be scrapped, but is still operational, and is the only loco available. do 33s still run today, apart from the solitary Wessex one i have heard about?

basildd · Post by **basildd** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:44 am

Fragonset have a number of Class 33 locomotives which are sub leased to SWT and other TOC's at various times for their use. Locomotives in the pool include 33021 / 046/ 103 / 108 / 202. Other private owned versions such as 33109 and 33208 have also been hired in for assisting duties.

Stooopidperson · Post by **Stooopidperson** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:55 am

I think in the .con file, there is some maximum speed thing.

thedarkness · Post by **thedarkness** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 12:36 pm

A 47 should be able to pull a VEP at full speed. Check the brakes, as there might be some rogue 47's that still have double brake pipes.

thedarkness · Post by **thedarkness** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 12:37 pm

A Crompton or a 73 would be favourites for the job though.

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:19 pm

ok, illtry a fragonset 33, since i hate the 73s, and cant get the sounds to work

chriscooper · Post by **chriscooper** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:58 pm

Something else that could be done which would be more suitable for modern EMUs would be to have a failed train in front that you had to assist to the next station so passengers could detrain, then dump in a siding before continuing your journey. I'm not 100% sure but I think this would happen more often with slammers aswell, as it would take time to get a rescue loco out but the chances are a suitable train is following behind.

Lad491 · Post by **Lad491** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:50 pm

I used a passing MPV

as there wasn't any suitable locomotive available.

asalmon · Post by **asalmon** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:51 pm

There will be in the addpack!

Sorry, just had to get a plug in.

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:25 pm

this train just happens to be about 45 seconds away from Three Bridges in the Brighton direction. Now i have 2 months of premium thanx to buying LBE and ordering MidEast UK on Sunday(not sure when it will arrive though) i can download alot of things

alrispoli · Post by **alrispoli** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 11:38 pm

No reason why a slam door cannot assist a slam door. Say unit 1 is at Haywards Heath (headed for Brighton) and you are following, maybe a queue of trains in front as everything else uses the loop(?) and you pull in behind the unit and what was a 4-VEP is now 4-VEP and 4-CIG!! Dont know if MSTS could handle it though?

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 5:37 pm

you could do that alrispoli, but the problem is that you would be driving with the face in the rear of the VEP