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[shinymac]

Hi Nick and Others that are interested...

Here are my three missing assets as reported by RW Tools :

D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\keithmross\WCML2\Scenery\Buildings\WCML2_House_Cottage_1_Smokeless.bin

D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\RSC\LiverpoolManchester\Scenery\Buildings3\LM_Victoria_Pit.bin

D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\UKTS_FP\Blocks_and_Lofts\PJT\Walls\FP_PJT_Tan_Wood_Fence_d.bin

I think the last one of the three has already been mentioned on here. I have not swapped in ANYTHING (yet), and when missing stock has been reported I have just pressed "F2 and Cancel".

Cheers Nick

Derek

[brysonman46]

Thanks Derek - I have those in the "fix" pack that I am putting together

Nick

[gptech]

and when missing stock has been reported I have just pressed "F2 and Cancel".

Be wary of F2...

Whilst it does allow a scenario to load by not utilising those *missing* assets, it also removes the whiole consist which that item is in. In theory, if that's a service that's used to ensure a path for another service can be set (for example) then that dependant service will/can now fail to move. That usually results in the scenario refusing to load, but nobody's said that's true in every case.
Whenever we swap items with RW Tools or use F2 we are immediately NOT running the scenario as written, and tested, accordingly our first thoughts should be "what have I done to break it". It's only upon investigation of what's actually happening at a slightly more technical level that we can gain any clues as to whether it's a scenario or edit problem.

To find 1 scenario out of 90 that won't function as the first trial is damn bad luck, 2 on the trot is one hell of a coincidence, but 3 moves it into a more localised problem rather than one of the package we've downloaded. The 3 scenery items reported as missing shouldn't be part of the problem though, so that's a plus, as they're purely "eye candy"

[shinymac]

Hi Nick

Can you tell me where I can find the following missing vehicles please ?

"RSC/Woodhead/RailVehicles/Freight/21T Hopper W01_F
W02_F
W03_F
W04_F

I need them for "7M19 0750 Healey Mills to Preston Deepdale" but I suspect they are needed for many more scenarios ?

Cheers

Derek

[gptech]

That's an odd path--seems to have a folder *missing*, as the Freight folder has folders for a 16T Mineral wagon, unfitted 21T Hopper and fitted 21T Hopper.

[brysonman46]

Hi Nick

Can you tell me where I can find the following missing vehicles please ?

"RSC/Woodhead/RailVehicles/Freight/21T Hopper W01_F
W02_F
W03_F
W04_F

I need them for "7M19 0750 Healey Mills to Preston Deepdale" but I suspect they are needed for many more scenarios ?

Cheers

Derek

Gary, correct paths to FOLDERS, sitting alongside the default folders.

Derek, I will ask the scenario author to give a clearer source (in the Manual it just states RSC\Woodhead for the 21T hoppers.)

Nick

[brysonman46]

Derek

The pack is available on UKTS

RSC Woodhead 21t Hopper Variety pack for Railworks [8691691 bytes] - RSC_Woodhead_21t.zip
File ID: 28239 Date: 30 Jan 2012 - 1402 Downloads

Sorry that it wasn't made clear in the Manual

Nick

PS it is the only scenario using these hoppers - as the hoppers are the "star" of the scenario, we needed more variation than just one variety looking the same as the other 19!

[shinymac]

Hi Nick

Thanks for pointing out the location of that particular variation of the Woodhead 21T Fitted hoppers.

I will go and download them now.

Incidentally, is there actually a total and comprehensive list of everything needed to run the nearly 100 scenarios please ? I havent found any list so far !

Thanks

Derek

[brysonman46]

Hi Nick

Thanks for pointing out the location of that particular variation of the Woodhead 21T Fitted hoppers.

I will go and download them now.

Incidentally, is there actually a total and comprehensive list of everything needed to run the nearly 100 scenarios please ? I havent found any list so far !

Thanks

Derek

Use TS_Tools. Route Building Tools --> Check Routes or Scenarios --> List Stock Used by all Scenarios

You can also do it for individual scenarios (button to the left)

Nick

[shinymac]

Hi Nick

Thanks. I do use RW Tools to check for missing assets, but I have never used it to search for the providers of assets. I tried it tonight, and it seems fairly straightforward. So will bear that in mind.

Thanks Again

Derek

[shinymac]

Here we go AGAIN !

"7M19 Healey Mills to Deepdale CCD"....after several attempts I finally made it through Preston station and onto the Deepdale Branch as far as the first stopping point just beyond "Deepdale Jct" signalbox. I stopped exactly at the marker and was told to then reverse down to the CCD before doing some shunting. But half my train was still blocking the junction back to the CCD, and as soon as I started to draw forward so that the rearmost wagon was clear of the junction to the CCD..BANG ! DERAILMENT and GAME OVER !

Nick my friend, I think you have created a splendid route...but it dont work ! At the very least I would suggest you contact every scenario creator, and ask them to check AGAIN that their scenarios do work. For me personally, I am not going to try any more scenarios...this is the 4th out of 4 that dont work.

Maybe an idea to withdraw the new version altogether, until it has been 100% checked and verified ?

Derek

[gptech]

What's needed first is corroboration(s) from others that the scenarios fail--as I've already written, there's bad luck, coincidence and localised issues---4 failures on the trot is definitely a candidate to fit in the latter category, particularly as nobody else is reporting major issues. Could anyone suggest a proven working scenario for Derek to try?

[brysonman46]

........... Deepdale Branch as far as the first stopping point just beyond "Deepdale Jct" signalbox. I stopped exactly at the marker and was told to then reverse down to the CCD before doing some shunting. But half my train was still blocking the junction back to the CCD, and as soon as I started to draw forward so that the rearmost wagon was clear of the junction to the CCD..BANG ! DERAILMENT and GAME OVER !
Derek

Stopping at a marker means "any part of the consist sits inside the marker, not just the loco". So you must keep going forward (rather than stopping as soon as the loco reaches it) until the last wagon has cleared the points before stopping. That is what the scenario creator and ALL the team did when they successfully completed this scenario. The dispatcher has noted that you have completed the task of stopping at the marker, so proceeds to the next and switched the points so you can enter the CCD.
We acknowledged that the first 2 scenarios you tried had a fault because there was a small track change after they were written (thereby breaking them). The third "failed" because you oversped and arrived at a location well in advance of an AI starting. We will see if anyone else reports failing scenarios

Nick

[august1929]

Here we go AGAIN !

"7M19 Healey Mills to Deepdale CCD"....after several attempts I finally made it through Preston station and onto the Deepdale Branch as far as the first stopping point just beyond "Deepdale Jct" signalbox. I stopped exactly at the marker and was told to then reverse down to the CCD before doing some shunting. But half my train was still blocking the junction back to the CCD, and as soon as I started to draw forward so that the rearmost wagon was clear of the junction to the CCD..BANG ! DERAILMENT and GAME OVER !

Derek

I had no trouble getting back to the CCD, no derailment, no game over, but I did get confused with the instructions following the reversal to the CCD. This last was a consequence of my lack of understanding, not the scenario itself.

Scenario seems to work back to the CCD - just my experience and not denying anyone else's...

Rod

[brysonman46]

I had no trouble getting back to the CCD, no derailment, no game over, but I did get confused with the instructions following the reversal to the CCD. This last was a consequence of my lack of understanding, not the scenario itself.

Scenario seems to work back to the CCD - just my experience and not denying anyone else's...

Rod

After dropping off the back half of the consist, you have to do as the actual drivers would do, start unloading as you pull forward - otherwise you will have passed through the destination without stopping, and get a fail (which happened to me the first time I ran it). You can then set the points for the other siding, and reverse, unloading the remainder not unloaded on the first pass. Once they are safely in the siding, you can then collect the other half and, again, unload as you move forward

Nick