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K2rover
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Turning off wheelslip

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Is there a way off turning of wheelslip in a loco by say editing the Bin file somehow? Or other method?

My biggest issue is with the DTG Class 59 supplied with Medway Valley. It wheelslips really unrealistically in my view. I was in Summer conditions on departure from Acton and it couldn't get up the bank to the North London Line with only 18 loaded JNAs. In real life these are beasts! Couldn't get above 37% notch without immediate wheelslip getting me to the grand speed of 0.2mph. Got fed up so swapped it for an AP66 which was fine even on full power!

I also have this issue with the JT Class 60 add-on. Get horrible wheelslip all the time even with the sander full on. Unbearable.
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The values to play around with in the .bin file might be the friction coefficients.
So that's RollingFrictionCoefficient, DryFriction, WetFriction, SnowFriction.

You'll find them near the top, between couplings and bogies, underneath all the mass, pivot and collision box values.
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Re: Turning off wheelslip

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If your scenarios start with the loco coupled to the train try editing one of them so it starts with them uncoupled. Couple up and see if wheelslip is harder to provoke. AFAIK the default wheelslip model is still flawed and incorrectly factors in the player consist weight at the start of the scenario, there's an old thread on the topic in the physics section of this forum.

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Edit: The thread I mentioned above is here: https://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic ... &sk=t&sd=a
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Re: Turning off wheelslip

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Thanks for this. I will try some of these tips out.

When you change the values I take it making all 1.00 would reduce the propensity to wheelslip?
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Due to the consist weight fudge factor, you may need a value greater than 1. It will depend on the consist and the weight and tractive effort of the loco; try it and see! From memory you don't need to restart TS for changes to take effect, only quit and restart the scenario.

A realistic value would be between about 0.25 and 0.5, but that only works if you always load scenarios light engine.

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Re: Turning off wheelslip

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K2rover wrote:My biggest issue is with the DTG Class 59 supplied with Medway Valley. It wheelslips really unrealistically in my view. I was in Summer conditions on departure from Acton and it couldn't get up the bank to the North London Line with only 18 loaded JNAs. In real life these are beasts! Couldn't get above 37% notch without immediate wheelslip getting me to the grand speed of 0.2mph. Got fed up so swapped it for an AP66 which was fine even on full power!
I find just the opposite with all DTG models, I find they never wheel slip, which I find unrealistic, the only model I have had trouble with wheel slip is the class 58 in certain circumstances, other than that the only models that take some time to get used to are AP enhancements, as you can add any amount of power in any weather condition and then with the enhancement you find that even though you thought you were applying the correct power for the rail conditions you have to learn over again
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