North Wales Coast - BR Blue Route now available for download

[ashgray]

Firstly, let me say what a fantastic route conversion this is - I much prefer this and the South Lancs backdates to the more modern versions and you guys have done a fantastic job!

A couple of minor constructive points, if I may - firstly, the Colwyn Bay Shuttle scenario fails at the Colwyn Bay goods yard. Once you've dropped off the brake, tanks and last four vans, the next set of vans pick up without a problem but the instruction to pick up the tanks from siding 3 cannot be completed, as the sim doesn't recognise that they have been picked up.

Secondly, for some bizarre reason, all of the lineside tufts of grass for the entire route (but no other foliage) is floating a foot or so off ground level. Is there a "quick and dirty" way of fixing this or would I need to select every instance of this asset and lower them all to ground level by eye, manually?

Ash

[michaelhendle]

Hi Andy
Many thanks for the link to the 47's I needed
Mike

[acfreeman99]

Secondly, for some bizarre reason, all of the lineside tufts of grass for the entire route (but no other foliage) is floating a foot or so off ground level. Is there a "quick and dirty" way of fixing this or would I need to select every instance of this asset and lower them all to ground level by eye, manually?

Ash

Hi Ash,

In the original DTG route there were several instances of flying lineside vegetation which I re-united with the ground, it may be that I missed an occasional piece but you should definitely not see this over the entire route - I have just checked a couple of random locations and all is fine. Are you able to post a screenshot or two and describe locations?

Anyone else seeing the same?

thanks,

Andy

[smarty2]

Hi Nick, you are using assets from WCML2 yes? The urban point lights are orange. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 1579462152

Ahhh - the point lights - will check. I thought you were talking about the streetlights. We have used the DTG\NWC\...\Urbanglow. This can be changed to the WCML2 version.

Have you managed to sort that scenario? We hope to get an update out around next Wednesday and could include it in the package.

And that applies to anyone else who would like a scenario to be included

Nick

Still polishing off! Translating to Welsh is a difficult language to type out! To whom should I send it?

[brysonman46]

A couple of minor constructive points, if I may - firstly, the Colwyn Bay Shuttle scenario fails at the Colwyn Bay goods yard. Once you've dropped off the brake, tanks and last four vans, the next set of vans pick up without a problem but the instruction to pick up the tanks from siding 3 cannot be completed, as the sim doesn't recognise that they have been picked up.

Ash

The vans to pick up are not all coupled, so you have to push the first pair to the last one before coupling - that should complete that task. Same with the tanks. That is why I stated ALL in each instruction. It is strange that it is not recognising the completion. I have run it a few times, but will look at it again before we publish an update for the complete route. There was another scenario (Red Dragon) that developed a "fault" between testing and publication, despite having all the files with the same date/time.
There are days I wonder about the sim!

Nick

[brysonman46]

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Still polishing off! Translating to Welsh is a difficult language to type out! To whom should I send it?

Google Translate is good at that sort of thing.

Send it to me

Thx

Nick

[petermargetts]

I have had the same problem with the Colwyn bay shuffle. I picked up ALL the vans OK and then went to the tanks and reversed picking up the first tank and then the others but did not get credit for doing this so could not complete the scenario.
PeterM

[brysonman46]

I have had the same problem with the Colwyn bay shuffle. I picked up ALL the vans OK and then went to the tanks and reversed picking up the first tank and then the others but did not get credit for doing this so could not complete the scenario.
PeterM

OK, I will be checking it again tonight. Has worked in testing several times - but you know how fickle the sim can be. Will have a working version in the update next week
I did it by pushing the first tank onto the others before coupling. That may be the problem. If so, will join them together at the start

[Deano55]

Ref- Colwyn shuffle scenario.
Just a thought, but could it have anything to do with the automatic couple setting. If the cars are all separate they would all need coupling individually if the auto couple is off.
Would it make any difference if the author had one setting and the player another?

[ashgray]

Thanks Nick

Sorry to add to the issues but, having just tried the 6M13 Sellafield - North Wales FNA scenario, that one failes at Llandudno Junction, where is does not seem possible to record having stopped at Llandudno Junction dn yard setback, despite having inched forwards and backward to find the marker.

As you say, the sim can be a cantankerous old beast!

Ash

[ashgray]

Ref- Colwyn shuffle scenario.
Just a thought, but could it have anything to do with the automatic couple setting. If the cars are all separate they would all need coupling individually if the auto couple is off.
Would it make any difference if the author had one setting and the player another?

Good idea, but I have TW2019 set for manual coupling - I could try it with auto to see if it makes a difference.

I'll come back here once tried.

Ash

[brysonman46]

Hi

anyone else experiencing signalling problems approaching Colwyn Bay Station from Llandudno ? i.e IA45 1004 Holyhead-Euston ,I'm getting a "game over" message for passing a signal at red,when it is actually a green signal.I press tab to pass this signal (even though it's a green signal),and shortly afterwards I get another "game over" message for passing a signal at red,even though I haven't passed another signal yet.Does Anyone know what's causing this,as I can't get passed this point ?

Sorry not to have replied sooner. There are inherent faults in the sim when it comes to semaphore signalling. If a distant is set at "caution" - ie ON - then you may be given a SPAD. That is incorrect, as you can only SPAD by doing what it says on the tin - passing a Home signal at DANGER. Sometimes, the first Home signal you encounter may be at DANGER (ie ON) because the sim has not reset the route correctly. You press TAB and it says OK to proceed. You should not be given SPAD for that. We do say in the Manual that we advise changing the game settings to switch off the "end scenario on SPAD. That is up to the individual driver.

[brysonman46]

Ref- Colwyn shuffle scenario.
Just a thought, but could it have anything to do with the automatic couple setting. If the cars are all separate they would all need coupling individually if the auto couple is off.
Would it make any difference if the author had one setting and the player another?

I have it set to manual (I spend most of my time on BRBlue and steam era routes, where drivers/firemen/second men had to work for a living).
I have just driven the shuffle, and had the same problem that others have. 2 days before publishing, it worked without problems! I have revised the scenario slightly, and will test again later. It will be fixed, in one way or another, in time for the update

[brysonman46]

Thanks Nick

Sorry to add to the issues but, having just tried the 6M13 Sellafield - North Wales FNA scenario, that one failes at Llandudno Junction, where is does not seem possible to record having stopped at Llandudno Junction dn yard setback, despite having inched forwards and backward to find the marker.

As you say, the sim can be a cantankerous old beast!

Ash

Hi Ash - not a problem. Had no problems when I wrote and tested the scenario, and it was working a couple of days before publication. May need a little tweek, but hopefully ready for the update next week. Perhaps change the "stop at" to a "waypoint". These little problems always seem to come at the end of a scenario!

Nick

[ashgray]

Nick

You were certainly right about the vagaries of the sim - I've just completed the Colwyn Bay Shuttle scenario but I'm not sure how!

On the suggestion of Deano55 above, I tried altering my settings to "auto-couplings" and ran the end of the scenario again from my save point just outside Colwyn Bay. However, i'd totally forgotten that the change in coupling setting would not be picked up by the sim unless I existed and re-entered the games and the scenario. I tried dropping off the tanks and four vans as normal, then trying to pick up the other vans and tanks without coupling to them immediately after contact (i.e. I let the consist roll on a bit, waited til I contacted the second lot of vans and tanks in their respective sidings, and only then manually coupling up). It worked, amazingly, and I was able to complete the scenario, but I'm sure that's not what was intended.

Keep at it please - it's a superb route, just a few teething troubles, but my accidental solution to this one makes no sense at all.

Ash