Are we going backwards?

[gptech]

Partitioning drives....

This hasn't been necessary for many years and can even cause a degradation in performance. The argument that it nicely defines where things are, what they're for, falls over as a sensibly structured folder schema does exactly the same.
To get the most out of multiple physical drives, irrespective of the technology they use, you'd have the operating system on it's own, exclusive drive, and applications on any others.

[peterfhayes]

We do have to remember that in Ts2018 - PhysX is run on the cpu and not the gpu - possibly to allow AMD cards to work with TS as PhysX is a nVidia thing.
If you look at the opening screen for TS - nVidia is mentioned but NOT AMD - that may be the reason most of us use nVidia cards?

I did provide a guide for TS2014 using nVidia control panel and nVidia Inspector NVI on RWA http://railworksamerica.com/forum/viewt ... 33&t=12713 unfortunately the pictorial guide on dropbox has been 404'd but I can update and re-post again if there is any interest.

pH

[hstfan44]

Partitioning drives....

This hasn't been necessary for many years and can even cause a degradation in performance. The argument that it nicely defines where things are, what they're for, falls over as a sensibly structured folder schema does exactly the same.
To get the most out of multiple physical drives, irrespective of the technology they use, you'd have the operating system on it's own, exclusive drive, and applications on any others.

Partitioning drives is very wise in my opinion, depending what's on it as if for whatever reason a partition gets corrupted then the data on the other partitions remain unaffected. My spinner hdd has 4 partitions and yes it does keep data organised nicely so I wouldn't say that argument falls over, I also keep a nice & tidy folder structure but I choose to do both.

I've always had Windows on it's own ssd since I started using them many years ago but I also install all software (except games which go on a dedicated ssd) on the same ssd, never had any performance issues doing it that way and with regards to using an ssd I'd say keeping all applications (non games) on the same drive as Windows will get you the best performance. In the old days before ssd drives became popular then I could see an argument for having Windows on it's own hdd and software on another due to the speed and slow access times but with ssd's there's no reason to do that unless your running out of space or getting close to not having enough free space left on the ssd for the trim function to work correctly.

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[gptech]

That's your choice though hst, and as much as I advocate following what the P in PC stands for it doesn't alter the fact that partitioning is not necessary, nor does it argue against my post---I didn't write not to do it, did I? Granted it's implied that I think you shouldn't, but I wasn't laying down a rule.
I assume you've partitioned drives for many years, so is it now a habit rather than a strategy based on best/recommended practices for modern hardware?
Partitioning gives no performance boost, can even harm it and is certainly not what the advice "have TS on a separate drive to Windows" means. Neither does it add much to the integrity of the data on a partitioned volume. If you get corruption from a virus on one partition only that could be because the unaffected partitions only hold data files, not the executables that a virus attacks. Wholesale corruption of a partition could also be the effects of a disc beginning to fail; once that happens all content on that volume is suspect until proven otherwise, and once a disc fails all partitions are lost.
Yes, SSDs have negligible lag but it's still measurable by the appropriate benchmarks software, even though it's of no real consequence and completely noticeable to the average guy. That though still doesn't argue against partitioning not being necessary.
One thing we haven't touched upon so far is whether any anti-virus is kicking in during file access to perform on access/on demand/real time scanning

[johnrossetti]

>>I can update and re-post again if there is any interest.
<<Yes please Peter I for one would like to read more.

Then I might find out how I got this message on TS !

I know I can tick a box and get rid of it BUT why is it there anyway ! what did I select

However,I must be doing something right I've just a full length blast on Glorious Devon / 08:00 Manchester Penzance double headed with King Class
The Sound and Pictures were stunning and I didnt see a single stall at around 40FPS.
Chuffed I am
John

[johnrossetti]

Hi Gary, found that link this is what it produced !
Operating System Windows 10 Pro, 64-bit
DirectX version: 12.0
GPU processor: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Driver version: 388.59
Direct3D API version: 12
Direct3D feature level: 12_1
CUDA Cores: 3584
Core clock: 1569 MHz
Memory data rate: 11010 MHz
Memory interface: 352-bit
Memory bandwidth: 484.44 GB/s
Total available graphics memory: 27495 MB
Dedicated video memory: 11264 MB GDDR5X
System video memory: 0 MB
Shared system memory: 16231 MB
Video BIOS version: 86.02.39.00.90
IRQ: Not used
Bus: PCI Express x16 Gen3
Device Id: 10DE 1B06 66963842
Part Number: G611 0050

[Components]

nvGameS.dll23.21.13.8859 NVIDIA 3D Settings Server
nvGameSR.dll23.21.13.8859 NVIDIA 3D Settings Server
NVSTRES.DLL7.17.13.8859 NVIDIA 3D Vision Module
NVSTVIEW.EXE7.17.13.8859 NVIDIA 3D Vision Photo Viewer
NVSTTEST.EXE7.17.13.8859 NVIDIA 3D Vision Test Application
nvCplUI.exe8.1.940.0 NVIDIA Control Panel
nvCplUIR.dll8.1.940.0 NVIDIA Control Panel
NVCUDA.DLL23.21.13.8859 NVIDIA CUDA 9.1.104 driver
nvDispS.dll23.21.13.8859 NVIDIA Display Server
nvDispSR.dll23.21.13.8859 NVIDIA Display Server
NVMCTRAY.DLL23.21.13.8859 NVIDIA Media Center Library
Physx 09.10.0513 NVIDIA PhysX
NVCPL.DLL 8.17.13.8859 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvui.dll 8.17.13.8859 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdapix.dll 8.17.13.8859 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdbat.dll 8.17.13.8859 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdplcy.dll 8.17.13.8859 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvViTvS.dll 23.21.13.8859 NVIDIA Video Server
nvViTvSR.dll 23.21.13.8859 NVIDIA Video Server
nvWSS.dll 23.21.13.8859 NVIDIA Workstation Server
nvWSSR.dll 23.21.13.8859 NVIDIA Workstation Server

Quiet a lot LO John

[bri2808]

We do have to remember that in Ts2018 - PhysX is run on the cpu and not the gpu - possibly to allow AMD cards to work with TS as PhysX is a nVidia thing.
If you look at the opening screen for TS - nVidia is mentioned but NOT AMD - that may be the reason most of us use nVidia cards?

I did provide a guide for TS2014 using nVidia control panel and nVidia Inspector NVI on RWA http://railworksamerica.com/forum/viewt ... 33&t=12713 unfortunately the pictorial guide on dropbox has been 404'd but I can update and re-post again if there is any interest.

pH

I remember that, and looked for the same sort of guide for AMD but was not so lucky

[gptech]

John, to turn the PhysX status display on/off look at the top of the nVidia Control Panel--I can't remember the exact wording so if you see a view or options setting look in that. In wherever it is is the option to turn on or off the status display; it's just a tick (or lack of) that sets your choice.

[johnrossetti]

>>John, to turn the PhysX status display on/off look at the top of the nVidia Control Panel
<< Thanks Gary, I had found that but what I was trying to do was turn the PhysX from CPU to GPU, otherwise whats the point of an expensive card ??

https://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/technology/physx/faq
PhysX runs faster and will deliver more realism by running on the GPU.
Running PhysX on a mid-to-high-end GeForce GPU will enable 10-20 times more effects and visual fidelity than physics running on a high-end CPU.
I cant seem to find a way of doing it.
John

[peterfhayes]

John

PhysX runs faster and will deliver more realism by running on the GPU.
Running PhysX on a mid-to-high-end GeForce GPU will enable 10-20 times more effects and visual fidelity than physics running on a high-end CPU.
I cant seem to find a way of doing it.

Unfortunately TS 2012 - 2018 does not support running PhysX on the GPU (see my post above) - cpu only. I think this allowed AMD graphics cards to run TS as they do not have the PhysX "module".


Turn off the PhysX indicator via 3D settings in NVCP.
pH

[smarty2]

>>John, to turn the PhysX status display on/off look at the top of the nVidia Control Panel
<< Thanks Gary, I had found that but what I was trying to do was turn the PhysX from CPU to GPU, otherwise whats the point of an expensive card ??

https://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/technology/physx/faq
PhysX runs faster and will deliver more realism by running on the GPU.
Running PhysX on a mid-to-high-end GeForce GPU will enable 10-20 times more effects and visual fidelity than physics running on a high-end CPU.
I cant seem to find a way of doing it.
John

John, the selector for cpu gpu is under 3d settings configure surround physx.

[gptech]

PhysX does not work on the GPU under TS though Martin

[smarty2]

PhysX does not work on the GPU under TS though Martin

Yes I know capt pedant! But John asked the question, only obliging.

[gptech]

Not that obliging Martin if he'd set it to GPU only to find the game wouldn't run

[smarty2]

Well, I have had it set and it does run.