Broken Consists in Scenarios.

[bigmull]

These are the bane of my life!Is there any way(a SIMPLE way) to fix these?Can RWTools do it?

[gptech]

Can RWTools do it?

No; quite often RW Tools is the cause of them, if you've swapped stock in to the scenario that's a slightly different length to what was originally used.

Is there any way(a SIMPLE way)

Yes; load the scenario in the editor mode (Build from the main page, click the Scenarios tab, scroll down to find the route, click it to expand the listing to show the scenarios, click the scenario and then click the edit button on the bottom right of the screen) or by dropping into the editor from the Exit/Edit option the game throws up when the scenario fails to load.
Once in there, locate the affected consists, click on a rail vehicle to select it and move it slightly forward. Repeat for all vehicles in the consist. You can select a whole consist by first selecting the 'select consist' option in the bottom left hand flyout.

It's honestly harder to explain that it is to do, so make a start on a scenario and see how you get on---any bother just post back in here.

[levisham]

My tried and trusted method: When you have the message 'broken consists etc' there is usually a dialogue box appears with 'Edit and Exit'. Click on the 'Edit' and the scenario will reload in edit mode. Then click 'Exit' and the scenario will open again and without the broken consists, hopefully.
Maybe my interpretation of your problem is wrong?

Regards, John.

[gptech]

and without the broken consists, hopefully.

If the broken consists are removed completely, as when using F2 to force a scenario to load without stock you don't have, then you could end up with a very boring scenario if a removed service is supposed to interact with the player train, or even no train to drive if the player rain is a broken consist.

[levisham]

and without the broken consists, hopefully.

If the broken consists are removed completely, as when using F2 to force a scenario to load without stock you don't have, then you could end up with a very boring scenario if a removed service is supposed to interact with the player train, or even no train to drive if the player rain is a broken consist.

My wording is not very clear. It is not the same thing as using F2. When I wrote "without the broken consists, hopefully" I should have said with the broken consists fixed, hopefully. It appears to work for me,

Regards, John.

[bigmull]

So a "possible" easy method is to remove a couple of Waggons from the consists?

[gptech]

So a "possible" easy method is to remove a couple of Waggons from the consists?

No idea, never tried it but it's worth a try. Be aware though that if what you delete is part of a consist you couple to or uncouple from you'll immediately build in a much bigger problem.
The next time you run into the issue, do nothing except report it here and we'll run through how to do it without deleting stuff. It's really not hard once you've done it once.
Another common cause of broken consists is running a scenario that was written on an older version of a route on an upgraded route--in some cases the offending consist isn't even on the track, but 'parked' where the track used to be.

[bigmull]

Well that didnt go well,bolloxed up the whole scenario.Its odd as it ran perfectly once i had done the swap out with RWTools,just on resuming the scenario they then started to appear.So itsa case of "lets try again".

[gptech]

By resuming do you mean from a previously saved run?

[bigmull]

Its all sorted now,thank you for all your input.Basically it all stemed from the fact that for some obscure reason the UKTS Freepack Waggons only onstalled a hand full of waggons.So after a reinstall of the pack they are all there now.So the only things that need swapping out are a few Ivatt 2's and a couple of 5MT's and any preferred locos i want to drive.Once again thanks for all the help.

[Trev123]

and without the broken consists, hopefully.

If the broken consists are removed completely, as when using F2 to force a scenario to load without stock you don't have, then you could end up with a very boring scenario if a removed service is supposed to interact with the player train, or even no train to drive if the player rain is a broken consist.

levisham as said nothing about using F2. In the box that comes up that says something about a broken consist you have the option of either selecting the exit button or the edit button. levishan said press the edit button.

[gptech]

You're right Trev, he said nothing about F2 which is why I used the words "as when" rather than "because you've"---it was using the F2 ploy as an example, not a statement that that's what he had, or should, or even shouldn't have done.

There's also a related error message that may come into this---"Broken Consist - Modified", which isn't a full blown off the rails, won't fit in the space, concertian'd consist but a message saying that the game has detected a modification and is treating it as a broken consist; these are invariably fixed by simply opening the scenario in the editor and exiting as levisham has described. Is there a possibility that he's described errors along those lines? (pun not intended)