fed up with the yoyo.

jimmyshand · Post by **jimmyshand** » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:33 pm

I was done with TSW by day 2 and went back to TS2017.

TS2017 has become so refined, realistic and with its plethora of stock, routes, scenarios and soundpacks it would be hard to beat.

I was a former die hard MSTS user but I instantly switched to the original Rail Simulator because it brought something new, an immersive 360 deg cab view. This was enough of a leap forward for me that I instantly ditched MSTS.
The new TSW doesn't have anything remarkable or game changing that makes it an instant conversion.

I'm quite happy to stick with TS2017 for many years to come, if not forever.

davejc64 · Post by **davejc64** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:37 am

It needs more scenarios, the services lack variety.

JackRyan · Post by **JackRyan** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:22 am

Until the releases come closer it's obvious that people will loos their interest very soon. To be honest, I was hoping for something like a new train for any of the two routes, but it has now gone quiet again.

deltic009 · Post by **deltic009** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:35 am

davejc64 wrote:It needs more scenarios, the services lack variety.

This comment I love, perhaps take up your issues with the DfT or with GWR, but the services are all based on actual timetabled workings, so I'm not sure how they can stick with simulating the route and add variety. It is what it is.

theorganist · Post by **theorganist** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:11 am

Well a class 387 and a Heathrow express unit could be added as DLC and maybe a class 180! Also a class 165 is missing, I know they are almost the same as a 166 but they would have been a more obvious choice I would have thought, especially as you could have proper two coach sets simulated.

Peter

JackRyan · Post by **JackRyan** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:17 pm

deltic009 wrote:
davejc64 wrote:It needs more scenarios, the services lack variety.
This comment I love, perhaps take up your issues with the DfT or with GWR, but the services are all based on actual timetabled workings, so I'm not sure how they can stick with simulating the route and add variety. It is what it is.

Even with the route this long, there could be heathrow express, heathrow connect, class 387 running from Paddington to Hayes & Harlington, Class 800 on test run and since yesterday in regular service as well, class 165. You could have a LOT of variety, not to mention adding a few branch line or extend the route to Didcot/Swindon

theorganist · Post by **theorganist** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:13 pm

I haven't really used it yet at waiting for my new graphics card, it's not really playable with the current one.

I suspect that once the novelty wears off it will become uninteresting until route extensions and/or extra stock is released, it is not a criticism but just that it is fairly inevitable as having one route and three trains will get a little repetitive, having said that I'm excited by service mode and interested in the possibilities that brings. I'm sure also DTG realise that it will wear off for many and that it is just the beginning and they will have plans for expansion.

I feel we will have to accept that we won't have the same turnover of new routes and stock that we are used to.

Just my tuppence worth.

Peter

davejc64 · Post by **davejc64** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:14 am

deltic009 wrote:
davejc64 wrote:It needs more scenarios, the services lack variety.
This comment I love,

Thanks.

tnleeuw01 · Post by **tnleeuw01** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:08 pm

theorganist wrote:Well a class 387 and a Heathrow express unit could be added as DLC and maybe a class 180! Also a class 165 is missing, I know they are almost the same as a 166 but they would have been a more obvious choice I would have thought, especially as you could have proper two coach sets simulated.

Peter

I believe it was hinted, kinda, that the 387 would eventually be released as a DLC.

And I guess the IEP can be expected as a DLC too....

--Tim

749006 · Post by **749006** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:11 pm

tnleeuw01 wrote:I believe it was hinted, kinda, that the 387 would eventually be released as a DLC.

And I guess the IEP can be expected as a DLC too....

And then the route will be wrong on another level where the line has OHLE all the way but the game does not.
I don't think you can get to Maidenhead in the game with an Electric train even though they are running in the real world.

A route update should be provided to install the wires to Reading before an electric train is offered.

Peter

davejc64 · Post by **davejc64** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:06 am

749006 wrote:And then the route will be wrong on another level where the line has OHLE all the way but the game does not.
I don't think you can get to Maidenhead in the game with an Electric train even though they are running in the real world.

A route update should be provided to install the wires to Reading before an electric train is offered.

Peter

Not forgetting that they would also need to actually install the OHLE at Paddington too, otherwise all Electric trains would have to stop just short of the station, maybe they could include a class 66 giving them a shove into the platforms as part of a scenario.

JackRyan · Post by **JackRyan** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:40 am

davejc64 wrote:
749006 wrote:And then the route will be wrong on another level where the line has OHLE all the way but the game does not.
I don't think you can get to Maidenhead in the game with an Electric train even though they are running in the real world.

A route update should be provided to install the wires to Reading before an electric train is offered.

Peter
Not forgetting that they would also need to actually install the OHLE at Paddington too, otherwise all Electric trains would have to stop just short of the station, maybe they could include a class 66 giving them a shove into the platforms as part of a scenario.

That is a bug I mentioned and that must be issued because it's quite awful to see the wires stopping at the station entrance.

lemberg · Post by **lemberg** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:52 am

deltic009 wrote:
davejc64 wrote:It needs more scenarios, the services lack variety.
This comment I love, perhaps take up your issues with the DfT or with GWR, but the services are all based on actual timetabled workings, so I'm not sure how they can stick with simulating the route and add variety. It is what it is.

Thats exactly why I have no intention of buying it, plastic stock that comes along once in a blue moon does nothing for me, even if it was in the BR blue era there was a fair amount of action and would make it more interesting.

Keith

sumitsingh · Post by **sumitsingh** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:45 pm

Wait an watch to see the growth of TSW.

jimmyshand · Post by **jimmyshand** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:39 pm

sumitsingh wrote:Wait an watch to see the growth of TSW.

Some might choose to wait and watch but for me I've already turned my back and I'm sticking with TS2017. The clues are all there already that TSW isn't going to develop any time soon...

The American edition of TSW has been out for a long time, around 8 months, and there hasn't been a single extra piece of DLC released in that time. The American market is huge but not one piece of DLC? That tells me all I need to know.
There are no editor tools so no third parties can pick up the baton.
The routes are very short in length which is an indicator of the amount of work required to produce something even quite basic.

I have a suspicion that TSW is going to be the equivalent of "MS Flight" vs FSX.

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