BR Class 402 2-HAL

kennyb · Post by **kennyb** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:11 am

Mike, also very popular on the Central Section, where they were intermixed with the 2Bil sets, often Bil / Hal but can`t remember then running as Hal / Hal. Workings were Brighton - Seaford / Eastbourne and Brighton - W.Worthing / Littlehampton. The Pompies were normally 2 x 2 Bils, probably due to extra toilets.
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A long needed units for sixties / seventies routes ( if and when ) now just need a Bil oh and a 4Cor would be nice
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Ken

michaelhendle · Post by **michaelhendle** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:55 am

I forget besides the 6 PAN/PUL sets there was a 6 city set,these three sets had 5 Green coaches and Pullman Pantry
,6 Pan MBS,Second,Second,First,Pantry First,MBS,6PUL,MBS,Second Composite,Composite,Composite Pullman,MBS,Think they were used on Eastbourne and Littlehampton services,from Victoria.
I forgot besides the 2BIL,2HAL,There was the 2 NOL's, the Nol stands for no lavatory
Mike

smarty2 · Post by **smarty2** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:25 am

Yeah, would be nice to see a 60's/70's victoria to dover docks route with a class 74!

JasonR002 · Post by **JasonR002** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:38 am

Does anybody know what the unit is in the background? This is a bt before my era but looks interesting.

xguerra · Post by **xguerra** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:50 am

smarty2 wrote:Yeah, would be nice to see a 60's/70's victoria to dover docks route with a class 74!

Oh yes! But only if there were coaches from the Night Ferry to go with that as well!

smarty2 · Post by **smarty2** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:27 am

Indeed. Remember travelling on the ten o'clock service back in the late sixties hauled by a 74.. Mk2A tso's, very exciting for an 8 year old!

jp4712 · Post by **jp4712** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:41 am

JasonR002 wrote:Does anybody know what the unit is in the background? This is a bt before my era but looks interesting.

It's a 4COR, otherwise known as a 'Nelson'. Splendid express units.

Paul

johnrossetti · Post by **johnrossetti** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:47 am

>>Yeah, would be nice to see a 60's/70's victoria to dover docks route with a class 74

<<100% agree I think it's about time Lon - Fav was extended to Dover and I would LOVE the Lon - Chat extended too that would enable London Night Boat Trains
(57 Miles done, 26 to go ! )
Great fun, getting the coaches on and off the ferry in it's special dock.

Oh dreams !

J

johnrossetti · Post by **johnrossetti** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:59 am

<<Well, lots of 2-HAP vehicles were disbanded into 2-BIL units so that figures
>> and of course we have 2BIL in the files.
http://uktrainsim.com/filelib-info.php? ... leid=29044 Thanks to Richard
- and 4SUB & Brighton Belle, (for the newbies)
J

michaelhendle · Post by **michaelhendle** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:18 am

I wonder lf that's a hint of what's to come as there are no Nelson 4 Cor ,4 Res ,4 Buf unit's in the library,I wonder if DTG are planing the coastway route between Brighton to Portsmouth ,set in the 1960's it would be ideal route for the 2 HAL set,and the Nelsons.

Mike

pastymuncher · Post by **pastymuncher** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:53 am

I'll buy it. I love these old Southern region units even though I am a Great Western Man at heart (from Penzance, Cornwall). It would be nice if London-Brighton and/or Portsmouth Direct got the Riviera Line treatment and went back to the 50's. We have loads of Steam loco's and stock available to use on them plus there is a very nice 4SUB, 2BIL, and the Brighton Belle in the download library. It doesn't seem right running them on modern routes.

dee4141 · Post by **dee4141** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:10 pm

My memories of the 2BIL's and Nelsons go back to the 1950's - I used to be on them every schoolday (which included Saturday mornings!) travelling between Havant and Petersfield and back. I seem to remember some non-corridor compartments where we could have a crafty smoke if we had it to ourselves.

The Portsmouth Mainline in the 50's/60's would make a good route....in those days King Arthurs, West Countrys, Q1, N15X, could be seen regularly - even Lord Nelsons and Schools were occasional visitors...and of course the A1X was still taking the Hayling Billy to and from Havant.

gptech · Post by **gptech** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:09 pm

I love threads like this---makes me feel so young.....

There's definitely a theme going on, with many wanting a 'backdated' version of a route to make it more 'suitable' so why don't all/a few of you get together and have a bash at producing such a thing?
Make it easy, pick one where the track work doesn't need huge changes then you're just dealing with 'dating' assets and revising the signals.
Yeah, I know that's not as easy as posting a wish list and there's no guarantee of success, but if you don't try.....

dee4141 · Post by **dee4141** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:46 pm

Having made a route for MSTS I could certainly make Southern Station boards etc, unfortunately being new to TS2017 , I wouldn't have a clue how to install them....

xguerra · Post by **xguerra** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:14 pm

gptech wrote:I love threads like this---makes me feel so young.....

There's definitely a theme going on, with many wanting a 'backdated' version of a route to make it more 'suitable' so why don't all/a few of you get together and have a bash at producing such a thing?
Make it easy, pick one where the track work doesn't need huge changes then you're just dealing with 'dating' assets and revising the signals.
Yeah, I know that's not as easy as posting a wish list and there's no guarantee of success, but if you don't try.....

If I had the time and mind-bending ability I would probably take up the challenge.
Suffice to say I don't have much of either and already have a project on the go.

Plus there would need to be a lot of reference material available like track diagrams and enough photographs of each location.
I can already see Victoria being a bit of a conversion challenge, see this photo:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/deepgreen2009/8116255162/

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