Route Maps.

Deano55 · Post by **Deano55** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:04 pm

Hello all,
I'm looking for a bit of advice regarding an atlas/map of the UK rail systems.
While driving in the sim I like to use a common UK road atlas to help find my route in the train. The problem is that the rail lines are very faint for my not so bright anymore eyes, if you get what I mean. Plus the road atlas is mainly for the roads.
So I thought I'd look on Amazon and came across one called 'Rail Atlas Great Britain and Ireland, 14th Edition' by S.K.Baker.
The only trouble is, It doesn't show what is inside the book/map.
Can someone who has a copy of this or a similar rail atlas tell me if the pages are the same as a road atlas but with rail networks taking priority over roads and being bright and clear to see. Also is it large enough to see when I plonk it on the desk next to me while I'm driving without the need to pick it up ?
I hope this makes sense to you all and any other atlas suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Dean.

holzroller · Post by **holzroller** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:08 pm

It only shows rail lines and large bodies of water. But it does show the curves in the mainlines. Quail maps will give you more detail, but all the lines are straight lines.

blade2014 · Post by **blade2014** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:11 pm

hi sorry that book dont show roads just track plans only you need google earth in train sim to view

ade72 · Post by **ade72** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:42 pm

Matt Peddlesden uses (I think) an app called train maps live on his youtube channel - link to the dev's page here - which provides a google maps overlay with a position marker and a trail to show where you've been.

I had a little play with it myself a while back and don't recall it being difficult to set up - it's freeware and might be what you're looking for as the map window can be zoomed and resized any way you need.

gptech · Post by **gptech** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:42 pm

Deano55 wrote:While driving in the sim I like to use a common UK road atlas to help find my route in the train. The problem is that the rail lines are very faint for my not so bright anymore eyes, if you get what I mean. Plus the road atlas is mainly for the roads.

Buy another road map and a selection of felt tip pens

peterfhayes · Post by **peterfhayes** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:26 pm

This is on Amazon and you can see one portion of a map:
Railway Atlas of Great Britain and Ireland Hardcover – March, 1989 by Alan Jowett (Author), Shepherd David (Foreword)
https://pictures.abebooks.com/ROGERLUCA ... 988825.jpg
ph

749006 · Post by **749006** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:38 pm

There was a listing on Ebay which has finished but you can see the seller took pictures of some pages
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rail-Atlas-of ... 7675.l2557
It will give you an idea of what it's like but it is to scale but does not show closed lines.

If you want a railway map superimposed over an OS Map and you feel rich
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trave ... plete.html

Peter

shinymac · Post by **shinymac** » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:53 pm

I would thoroughly recommend the " Rail Atlas of Great Britain" by S.K.Baker. Its clear and easy to read, and it shows freight-only lines as well as the passenger routes. It even shows sidings, yards, names of businesses associated with those sidings, tunnels, etc etc.

It DOESNT show roads, rivers, or anything else...just railway tracks..so is ideal for your needs. I always have my copy sat alongside my PC when I want to do some train simming !

Just make sure you purchase the latest version, as it has been published every couple of years since at least 1977 !!

However it is only of any use to you if you are driving a MODERN route, because it shows you the rail network as it is TODAY, and not as it was in the past.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rail-Atlas-Gre ... AT+BRITAIN

Enjoy !

Derek

davep · Post by **davep** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:21 am

ade72 wrote:Matt Peddlesden uses (I think) an app called train maps live on his youtube channel - link to the dev's page here - which provides a google maps overlay with a position marker and a trail to show where you've been.

I had a little play with it myself a while back and don't recall it being difficult to set up - it's freeware and might be what you're looking for as the map window can be zoomed and resized any way you need.

I use train maps live and very good it is too.

johnrossetti · Post by **johnrossetti** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:37 am

I use this a great buy for £10.
http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/railw ... 9-1945.htm
Train Maps Live is Brilliant, especially if you have two monitors. does not affect frame rates at all.
My only desire would be that it also worked in "follow me" mode.

Deano55 · Post by **Deano55** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:49 am

Cheers all.
I do not have a second monitor but have wondered if this could be a possibility, maybe in the spring.

749006 wrote:
If you want a railway map superimposed over an OS Map and you feel rich
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trave ... plete.html

Peter

Bingo. That's just what I'm looking for. But, no I'm not feeling that rich for what is just the same idea that Gary has given with the felt tips.

shinymac wrote:I would thoroughly recommend the " Rail Atlas of Great Britain" by S.K.Baker. Its clear and easy to read, and it shows freight-only lines as well as the passenger routes. It even shows sidings, yards, names of businesses associated with those sidings, tunnels, etc etc.

It DOESNT show roads, rivers, or anything else...just railway tracks..so is ideal for your needs. I always have my copy sat alongside my PC when I want to do some train simming !

Just make sure you purchase the latest version, as it has been published every couple of years since at least 1977 !!

However it is only of any use to you if you are driving a MODERN route, because it shows you the rail network as it is TODAY, and not as it was in the past.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rail-Atlas-Gre ... AT+BRITAIN

Enjoy !

Derek

As I can see it listed for less than a tenner I might just grab it on your recommendation. I guess a second atlas will be needed for the older routes.

johnrossetti wrote:I use this a great buy for £10.
http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/railw ... 9-1945.htm
Train Maps Live is Brilliant, especially if you have two monitors. does not affect frame rates at all.
My only desire would be that it also worked in "follow me" mode.

Does this have the Woodhead, Riviera 50's, Weardale and WLofS in it?
Sounds good.
Thanks again for all the advice.
Things used to be so much better when you could pop into the old style WHSmith that had everything you ever wanted in store to browse.

dumpadillo · Post by **dumpadillo** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:58 pm

I have Bradshaw's Railway Map of 1907(Great Britain & Ireland) on my office wall which shows every railway line in use at that time.I colour in the lines that I have and it looks quite impressive.I cannot remember where I got it from,it may have come free with a book I ordered.Even so 'Googling' will no doubt reveal where it can be obtained!!! I too use Baker's rail atlas 14th Edition, a good investment.

Dumps

johnrossetti · Post by **johnrossetti** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:31 pm

Ok.
>Does this have the Woodhead, Riviera 50's, Weardale and WLofS in it?
<YES, but the maps are a bit cramped the book is 7 x 9 1/2 inches, No Roads or map features just the railway routes.
However another way as you appear to want to follow your progress is to make your own maps of the route your going to use that day.
To do this you have two choices.
http://product.itoworld.com/map/26?lon= ... creen=true
And click though to Google maps or sat view (no railways on the map its one or the other) but the whole of the world !
or better still
http://www.railmaponline.com/UKIEMap.php.
This map shows UK only with click on details you can super the railways onto a selection of maps or sat views at many zoom levels and the press ctrl+P and print the screen out.

Other good atlases are here - take your pick.
http://tinyurl.com/zv6yt3f
The two I like as well as the one Ive already mentioned are
British Railway Atlas 1955 £9
http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/briti ... s-1955.htm
and
Railway Atlas then & Now £20
https://daverowland.smugmug.com/keyword/Atlas/
Happy hunting

JR

nuthatch · Post by **nuthatch** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:12 pm

I have a number atlas's but the one that I get a lot of satisfaction from is 'Railway Atlas Then & Now.' This has a double page layout with the left hand page representing the British system as at 1st January 1923 and the right hand page 1st January 2015. In this way you get the modern line and, if like me, you like some of the older routes, you get them as well. It also has enlarged maps of the more densely populated areas such as London, Birmingham, etc. in the same format. Once again these maps are just railways with no roads. This is published by Ian Allan and my copy is the 2nd edition so I presume it is updated from time to time.

Hope this helps, Bill B.

kevrob2 · Post by **kevrob2** » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:00 pm

Not exactly what you were looking for I know, but I find the National Library of Scotland map website great for reviewing old railways against a modern overlay. This link should start you in Wolverhampton in OS One inch 1885-1900. There are lots of other maps to exlore with varying degrees of railway detail.

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=14 ... ers=1&b=1

Kev

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