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SHG ÖBB Class 1044

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http://train-simulator.com/classic-aust ... -obb-1044/

Skyhook Games is developing an ÖBB 1044, no idea why the 1144 was left out.
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Re: SHG ÖBB Class 1044

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The reason was mentioned in another thread when this was originally anounced some time ago. They originally approached Railworks Austria who already have excellent freeware 1144,1142/1042 models. RWA weren't interested apparentl, but suggested that they do the 1044, rather than duplicate the others
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holzroller wrote:The reason was mentioned in another thread when this was originally anounced some time ago. They originally approached Railworks Austria who already have excellent freeware 1144,1142/1042 models. RWA weren't interested apparentl, but suggested that they do the 1044, rather than duplicate the others
The freeware 1042,1144,1142 are very very good :)
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Springer6 wrote:
holzroller wrote:The reason was mentioned in another thread when this was originally anounced some time ago. They originally approached Railworks Austria who already have excellent freeware 1144,1142/1042 models. RWA weren't interested apparentl, but suggested that they do the 1044, rather than duplicate the others
The freeware 1042,1144,1142 are very very good :)
The 1144 is one of the locos I like driving as the sounds are spot on and a good model and well up to payware standards.

I'm not sure if there is much of a market for the Skyhook version - unless they sell thru Steam for the Workshop.

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749006 wrote:
Springer6 wrote:
holzroller wrote:The reason was mentioned in another thread when this was originally anounced some time ago. They originally approached Railworks Austria who already have excellent freeware 1144,1142/1042 models. RWA weren't interested apparentl, but suggested that they do the 1044, rather than duplicate the others
The freeware 1042,1144,1142 are very very good :)
The 1144 is one of the locos I like driving as the sounds are spot on and a good model and well up to payware standards.

I'm not sure if there is much of a market for the Skyhook version - unless they sell thru Steam for the Workshop.

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Skyhook's products are sold on Steam.
For disclosure, I am affiliated with a third party developer however, I do not know anything about any future releases unless I'm working on them and even then, I'd be breaking years worth of built up trust to say anything about it ;-)
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Re: SHG ÖBB Class 1044

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From Facebook

We have produced a promotional video for our ÖBB 1044. Hope you enjoy it. Scripting and sounds by Maik Goltz.

https://youtu.be/dAYTTNnivKo
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Re: SHG ÖBB Class 1044

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It's lookinig good, looking forward to buying this one from Steam, even if it's not a fully Advanced model in the JT / vR / VictoryWorks sense of Advanced!

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I'm not sure yet - the sounds may be ok but will it be any better than the freeware version from Railworks Austria?
http://railworks-austria.at/index.php/d ... -oebb-1144
The RWA version has both original and later roof vents and 5 different liveries plus all the 1044's have been converted to 1144's

I don't know if the Skyhook version will have different roof vents but the lower numbers shown on their facebook picture is wrong
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t3 ... 0039_o.jpg
http://peter749.piwigo.com/picture?/253 ... lways_2015

What might generate sales is the ability to use the loco in the workshop.

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Re: SHG ÖBB Class 1044

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Which numbers Peter?

The ones under the windscreen or the numbers on the lower body on the side?

The two comparison shots don't show a clear difference to me.
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749006 wrote:I'm not sure yet - the sounds may be ok but will it be any better than the freeware version from Railworks Austria?
http://railworks-austria.at/index.php/d ... -oebb-1144
The RWA version has both original and later roof vents and 5 different liveries plus all the 1044's have been converted to 1144's

I don't know if the Skyhook version will have different roof vents but the lower numbers shown on their facebook picture is wrong
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t3 ... 0039_o.jpg
http://peter749.piwigo.com/picture?/253 ... lways_2015

What might generate sales is the ability to use the loco in the workshop.

Peter
It's not better than, it's a different aproach. As you may know, releasing a loco on Steam will need some special things to do. The RWA one would never go thru the DTG QA.

And do not compare a 1044 with a 1144. Your picture shows a 1144 with lower number not a 1044. But you may be right. The lower ones had the smaller vents. But not all of them as i can see in the book that i have about the 1044s.
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Re: SHG ÖBB Class 1044

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MaikG wrote: It's not better than, it's a different aproach. As you may know, releasing a loco on Steam will need some special things to do. The RWA one would never go thru the DTG QA.
If you're referring to their requirements for x-box controller compatibility, well, according to their posts, the new pro line of DLC will not be bound by that requirement, so perhaps things will change!

Of course, there might be other requirements in their QA that the RWA loco might be failing at.

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Re: SHG ÖBB Class 1044

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I have a good sight onto ProLine yet and nothing much will really change with it. RWA 1x44 will not match it. Can't talk much more about :D The SHG 1044 got a totally new script to match DTGs requirements and the next vR EL will do match DTG Standard and DTG ProLine as well with that new scripting. But it will create incompatibility to older EL. Tha'ts the game we need to play with DTG.
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Re: SHG ÖBB Class 1044

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Hm, well it's a bit of a pity that it will cause incompatibilities with other vR EL locos.

I don't know what this incompatibility means - not able to drive in MU with other EL locos? Not compatible with driving trailers?

But in my opinion as consumer, it is still a step forward that more advanced locos will be coming to Steam, vR stuff in particular as I quite like most vR products despite some minor quibbles :-)

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Re: SHG ÖBB Class 1044

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Yes, means it will break the ZWS/ZDS compatibilities. But, to be honest, there were never a real compatibility. The InputMapper problem breaks them all. So why do care about that further. Hopefully the new TS willl not have such issues. But nevertheless i will try to implement it into ne next EL ones. But, if we look at the upcoming BR101, the InputMappers are different too, and so you can't do a end change within a scenario, to run in the opposide direction with other vehicles than the in package delivered. Same problem occours with ZWS version 1 and 2, and also BR143EL against BR111EL, as they need different keymappings. Was a problem since i start playing with TS (RS/RW) years ago.
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Re: SHG ÖBB Class 1044

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pjt1974 wrote:Which numbers Peter?

The ones under the windscreen or the numbers on the lower body on the side?

The two comparison shots don't show a clear difference to me.
I'm referring to the locos actual number like 1044 001 or 1044 075 etc.
The earlier 1044 locos only had smaller roof vents and the later series the size was increased.
MaikG wrote:[And do not compare a 1044 with a 1144. Your picture shows a 1144 with lower number not a 1044. The lower ones had the smaller vents. But not all of them as i can see in the book that i have about the 1044s.
The Class 1044 locos were all renumbered to Class 1144, apart from 1044 001 and 1044 002 the two prototypes, at the same time they were fitted with Push/Pull equipment to work with the driving coaches on single and double deck stock.
So as not to compare a 1044 with a 1144
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t3 ... 0039_o.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... -02-27.jpg

The Skyhook model is wrong for a loco numbered below 1044 070.

Finally - the front windows look too square - to me.

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