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Google is way better then.
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MaikG wrote:Google is way better then.
After compairing both translations, the Google one seems to be more correct. I understand that IC Control Car meaning to IC Driving Trailer.
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So we've had a lot of discussions about the quality of Internet translators, we know what new features vR currently have up their sleeves, but what we still don't have is the answer to when? :)

However those living in the UK should wish this is not released prior to June 23 - when they say leave that day the British pound's value will probably hit the sky and all Euro-based add-ons will be for half or one third of the current price for them...
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I don't particularly want to get into an EU discussion here, but whatever anyone might think about UK's long term prospects in or out of the EU, it's certain that at least in the first few weeks or months after a leave vote, the pound would fall, due to increased uncertainty about the future. The currency markets hate uncertainty, even if it's uncertainty that might result in an improved situation. Thus as you said, making British exports cheaper but imports more expensive.
The largest daily fall in the value of the pound in the last few years was actually on the day Boris Johnson announced he would back 'leave'.
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I was not being totally serious here... however I am still pretty sure in the long term British pound would benefit from the leave.

Anyway, no matter if one wants to leave or stay I can't even express how much I envy you that you have the choice... other countries are not that lucky...
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From Facebook

Can make: Br101el + Br120el + 13 coaches (br120el only with separate fast upgrades). So the question would be clarified.

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https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t3 ... 1406_o.jpg

Looking good.
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From FB;

Another 700 lines of code in the 101 El, only to come the 120 el far away to be able to upgrade, since the manual upgrade in the blockade of the brakes. Thus, it can now have a 120 El directly from the 101 El (UNIQUE) quickly be upgraded.
It is also possible before the 120 El 101 el as a leading tfz, and those with active zds, in order to upgrade the 101 el reacted accordingly.
The 101 el is not, however, with the tvt / Zds System Compatible. You don't have to, because it can only be with a 120 he walk together. This has now been guaranteed. Turn train bet war with umtieg of the one in the other will only be tested on the edge, since the two locomotives for not usually run in a sandwich. Fundamentally, it is estimated that but also functioning (but is not guaranteed).
Also the speech system is about 400 lines of code in order to cope with the issue sorted properly to ensure that something, without, overlaid is suppressed or chopped off. The said piles on disturbance issue but is still missing. Here you will be only rudimentary "tight strings abert" in order to be the typical behaviour of a 101 ansa to simulate vir. Real disturbances in this form, there is not, as it is the appropriate system does not exist. Also, it is all much too complex for a ts.
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holzroller wrote:From FB;

Another 700 lines of code in the 101 El, only to come the 120 el far away to be able to upgrade, since the manual upgrade in the blockade of the brakes. Thus, it can now have a 120 El directly from the 101 El (UNIQUE) quickly be upgraded.
It is also possible before the 120 El 101 el as a leading tfz, and those with active zds, in order to upgrade the 101 el reacted accordingly.
The 101 el is not, however, with the tvt / Zds System Compatible. You don't have to, because it can only be with a 120 he walk together. This has now been guaranteed. Turn train bet war with umtieg of the one in the other will only be tested on the edge, since the two locomotives for not usually run in a sandwich. Fundamentally, it is estimated that but also functioning (but is not guaranteed).
Also the speech system is about 400 lines of code in order to cope with the issue sorted properly to ensure that something, without, overlaid is suppressed or chopped off. The said piles on disturbance issue but is still missing. Here you will be only rudimentary "tight strings abert" in order to be the typical behaviour of a 101 ansa to simulate vir. Real disturbances in this form, there is not, as it is the appropriate system does not exist. Also, it is all much too complex for a ts.
Unfortunately, Maik writes his messeges in very, very technical language, which is almost impossible to translate to English. I've tried 3 different translators and the results were (for me) very "gibrish" which mean I didn't understood the "motto" of his announcement. Maybe you Holtz can explain me in few words, what is all about.
BTW. I've never saw both BR101 + BR120 in dual traction. Is this weird combination exists in reality.
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Yes this combination exists in real life. In a nutshell Maik has achieved compatibility when double heading with a 101/120 combination, with either lok leading, it should also work with one lok at each end of the train but this is not guaranteed. The 101 is not compatible with the TVT/ZDWS mode, but it it doesn't need to be as this is the only combination in reality.
The speech warning system will function, but only in a fairly rudimentary fashion as TS does not allow for the complexity of the real life system.
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holzroller wrote:Yes this combination exists in real life. In a nutshell Maik has achieved compatibility when double heading with a 101/120 combination, with either lok leading, it should also work with one lok at each end of the train but this is not guaranteed. The 101 is not compatible with the TVT/ZDWS mode, but it it doesn't need to be as this is the only combination in reality.
The speech warning system will function, but only in a fairly rudimentary fashion as TS does not allow for the complexity of the real life system.
Speaking simply,how many verbal announcements are available of how many "de facto" prototypically existing in BR 101 locomotive. I think Taurus is more complicated since it has all announcements available in many languages.
Thanks Holtz for your kind help.
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Funny translations, again :D (don't use that garbage translators)

About the verbal system announcements, the complex part on it is the order and overlapping. Take a look into the RWA Railjet Taurus oder the HRQ Taurus. If you press PZB Wachsam twice and switch on the AFB and do other stuff at the same time that calls such an verbal annoucement, they all get out with no order and with overlapping and of course they partially will be cut off when you release the switch orr somethging. That is not what i want to have in the 101EL. So i do not use the TS itself audio trigger for it, but created my very own audio class to trigger the announcements by priority order and time, as one shot or loop, with memory if an higher prio loop stays for a while. To complex to describe it here at all. Maybe some users will feel the difference then in the finished product. Mot users will not.

And for the 101+120, yes, they exist in the real world. And to have this running in TS with our prensent sold 120EL, i needed to put in all the 120 ZDS stuff into the 101. This was not planned before. But TS will not work correctly if you need to go into the 120 to set it up and then go back ro your 101 to drive your train. Then the brakes and some key commands are blocked, because of dump 'features" of TS since always. These 'features" are the reason for the ZWS/ZDS setup proccedure, that i invented with our first EL, the BR143SBRE. I wouldn't do that, but i had to do it. And so, it is hunting me until today. I always need proccedures that can be start a cold loco from another loco, so you don't need to switch into the cold loco. The 700 lines of compact code are just to bring a cold 120EL alive without getting into her. Of course the code also provides some audio control for the not driven loco, as they are need it.
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Maik,
I have one word to describe your work. You are simply genius !!!. I'm full of respect for you.

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Thanks, but no need or place for honor or something. It is just work. And Einstein was a genius, i'm definitely not.
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Very modest too. I look forward to the release Maik.
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Me too. Last month you said Maik the release would come this month. Are you still on track? Can we expect the release till the end of June?

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