DTG Class 68

[smarty2]

Sounds like our washing machine on a spin cycle.

Regards,

Len

You must have lumpy clothes then Len!?

[tonybonnneyba]

Hmm, this looks good, but I wonder why there hasn't been much updates on it...... Would you think it would be released with more than one livery?

[ttjph]

After doing a bit of digging, I've found that Richard Fletcher has kindly already provided an IOA reskin of the MJA, so we can put 2000+ tonnes behind this beast to give it a proper work-out!

I counted 21 wagons here (turn your speakers up too):

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On a related note, does anyone know how fast you're allowed to haul loaded IOAs with a 3800 hp, 100 mph loco? MJAs appear to be 60 mph, but not clear whether that includes loaded.

[749006]

On a related note, does anyone know how fast you're allowed to haul loaded IOAs with a 3800 hp, 100 mph loco? MJAs appear to be 60 mph, but not clear whether that includes loaded.

Does not matter what pulls it just how fast the wagons can go.
Although in a training scenario for the Class 87 that comes with WCML over Shap it says accelerate your train (of 4 wheel tanks) up to 80mph

[ttjph]

On a related note, does anyone know how fast you're allowed to haul loaded IOAs with a 3800 hp, 100 mph loco? MJAs appear to be 60 mph, but not clear whether that includes loaded.

Does not matter what pulls it just how fast the wagons can go.

I know that... my point is that with 3800 hp there might actually be a risk of hauling 2000 tonnes too fast!

[749006]

On a related note, does anyone know how fast you're allowed to haul loaded IOAs with a 3800 hp, 100 mph loco? MJAs appear to be 60 mph, but not clear whether that includes loaded.

Does not matter what pulls it just how fast the wagons can go.

I know that... my point is that with 3800 hp there might actually be a risk of hauling 2000 tonnes too fast!

Only in the same way as going too fast with any other train - the driver drives to the speed limits - simples.

[deltic009]

On a related note, does anyone know how fast you're allowed to haul loaded IOAs with a 3800 hp, 100 mph loco? MJAs appear to be 60 mph, but not clear whether that includes loaded.

Does not matter what pulls it just how fast the wagons can go.

I know that... my point is that with 3800 hp there might actually be a risk of hauling 2000 tonnes too fast!

The point of a variable throttle control is to avoid that. How do you think drivers coped with 1000 tonne intermodal trains and a pair of Class 87s pushing out a constant 10,000HP?? Thats where the skill of the driver comes in.

[pjt1974]

Although in a training scenario for the Class 87 that comes with WCML over Shap it says accelerate your train (of 4 wheel tanks) up to 80mph

Just a side note. The training scenario you mention was created by me for Matt Peddlesden's Trainsimlive Stream for the sole purpose to help explain the run down procedure for the Class 87 on Neutral Sections. It was not an official DTG or Keith Ross scenario and was not meant to be prototypical. The TTA's were just there for the purpose of the Class 87 pulling something.
The Video of it here

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Just thought I'd mention it so there's no confusion.

[ttjph]

Only in the same way as going too fast with any other train - the driver drives to the speed limits - simples.

The point of a variable throttle control is to avoid that. How do you think drivers coped with 1000 tonne intermodal trains and a pair of Class 87s pushing out a constant 10,000HP?? Thats where the skill of the driver comes in.

Yes, that's my point, that here we have a loco where you will need some care and skill to keep to the appropriate limits - but is anyone actually going to answer my question about what the limit is for loaded IOAs... ?

[ttjph]

How do you think drivers coped with 1000 tonne intermodal trains and a pair of Class 87s pushing out a constant 10,000HP??

(Also, due to being series-wound, 87s don't produce constant power in the top notch:
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1673958)

[749006]

Only in the same way as going too fast with any other train - the driver drives to the speed limits - simples.

The point of a variable throttle control is to avoid that. How do you think drivers coped with 1000 tonne intermodal trains and a pair of Class 87s pushing out a constant 10,000HP?? Thats where the skill of the driver comes in.

Yes, that's my point, that here we have a loco where you will need some care and skill to keep to the appropriate limits - but is anyone actually going to answer my question about what the limit is for loaded IOAs... ?

From bit's of information I think the maximum speed is either 50 or 60 mph - none of the pictures indicate a maximum speed.
http://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_059.php

[dp123]

Only in the same way as going too fast with any other train - the driver drives to the speed limits - simples.

The point of a variable throttle control is to avoid that. How do you think drivers coped with 1000 tonne intermodal trains and a pair of Class 87s pushing out a constant 10,000HP?? Thats where the skill of the driver comes in.

Yes, that's my point, that here we have a loco where you will need some care and skill to keep to the appropriate limits - but is anyone actually going to answer my question about what the limit is for loaded IOAs... ?

60mph.

[thetrainfan]

Mountsorrel usually runs with 16 to 21 wagons. More often than not it's 18 (certainly was today).
60mph there empty and 60mph back loaded.

Should be a half decent runner from Lichfield to Stafford on Thomson/Keith's WCML Trent Valley!

[deltic009]

Well, helloooooooooo nurse!!

[Merlin75]

To me that looks like one ugly loco.