DTG Gatwick Express Class 73
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It's a shame we don't have a backdated Brighton Main Line to go with it. Not a fan of running older by-gone units on clearly modern routes. Much as I love the modern image routes. Just don't like mixing eras unless I can convince myself it's a charter which I don't think I can with these.
Re: DTG Gatwick Express Class 73
Gatwick Express operated 73s until 2005, it's not too much of a stretch to have them on the route as it's sold now.K2rover wrote:It's a shame we don't have a backdated Brighton Main Line to go with it. Not a fan of running older by-gone units on clearly modern routes. Much as I love the modern image routes. Just don't like mixing eras unless I can convince myself it's a charter which I don't think I can with these.
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Re: DTG Gatwick Express Class 73
Oops - yes. Sorry31160 wrote:arnt they MK 2a's ??749006 wrote:The NSE Class 47 came with some Mk2b/c coaches31160 wrote:I would like the MK 2b's to show there face again at some point, the amount of reskins you could do for the 73 is immense for such a comparitively small class they wore many coats
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The one I was thinking of came from the same stable as the class 73.
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Re: DTG Gatwick Express Class 73
What would you change on a back-dated route?K2rover wrote:It's a shame we don't have a backdated Brighton Main Line to go with it. Not a fan of running older by-gone units on clearly modern routes. Much as I love the modern image routes. Just don't like mixing eras unless I can convince myself it's a charter which I don't think I can with these.
The station Nameboards would have to change but the main trackwork is not much different to the that in the game.
And the Class 73's operated the Gatwick express to 2004-5.
It would be interesting to see a picture in late Slam Door days to that of today and compare the difference.
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Re: DTG Gatwick Express Class 73
The way that will work should be interesting, given that this will be an electro-diesel, although dominantly electric.dp123 wrote:Hopefully the upper power handle will be the correct way around, and that some stab at semi-realistic electric controls is attempted. You could use the upper controller like an EMU four position controller or hand notch it, a bit like the power controller on the 86/87.
A long awaited model, should be a good addition to every Southern route.
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It's a fair point. I suppose it's all the Southern branding on the stations that might make it a bit unrealistic in my eyes. Didn't realize though that they'd run up to 2004-05.749006 wrote:What would you change on a back-dated route?K2rover wrote:It's a shame we don't have a backdated Brighton Main Line to go with it. Not a fan of running older by-gone units on clearly modern routes. Much as I love the modern image routes. Just don't like mixing eras unless I can convince myself it's a charter which I don't think I can with these.
The station Nameboards would have to change but the main trackwork is not much different to the that in the game.
And the Class 73's operated the Gatwick express to 2004-5.
It would be interesting to see a picture in late Slam Door days to that of today and compare the difference.
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Re: DTG Gatwick Express Class 73
If you count NSE as late slam door, then East Croydon and parts of Clapham junction have changed significantly, although not so much to the track layouts.It would be interesting to see a picture in late Slam Door days to that of today and compare the difference.
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Re: DTG Gatwick Express Class 73
I can think of at least 4 routes you could run them on depending what liveries are made,Faversham GBRf infrastructure 73 London Brighton both Gatwick Express and GBRf Infrastructure,Southampton - Weymouth Green & Blue class 73 and SWT Thunderbird 73,Edinburgh-Glasgow and West Highland Caladonian Express Sleeper trains.
What we now really need is a 4 REP and a 4TC to go with the 73,although basically we have 4 REP's as the class 442 were built on 4 REP chassis and used the traction motors from the 4 REP
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What we now really need is a 4 REP and a 4TC to go with the 73,although basically we have 4 REP's as the class 442 were built on 4 REP chassis and used the traction motors from the 4 REP
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But crucially the body of the class 442 is of a class 442, not a Mk1-based unit.michaelhendle wrote:I can think of at least 4 routes you could run them on depending what liveries are made,Faversham GBRf infrastructure 73 London Brighton both Gatwick Express and GBRf Infrastructure,Southampton - Weymouth Green & Blue class 73 and SWT Thunderbird 73,Edinburgh-Glasgow and West Highland Caladonian Express Sleeper trains.
What we now really need is a 4 REP and a 4TC to go with the 73,although basically we have 4 REP's as the class 442 were built on 4 REP chassis and used the traction motors from the 4 REP
Mike
Using a 4CIG and a 4BIG would be closer to achieving the 4REP 4TC pairing.
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The Mk3 coaching stock based 442s only used the traction equipment from the REPs, not the under frame. Plus a 442 only has half the power of a REP which had two powered vehicles per set.michaelhendle wrote:.....although basically we have 4 REP's as the class 442 were built on 4 REP chassis and used the traction motors from the 4 REP
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Re: DTG Gatwick Express Class 73
As has been said I hope if this is a rework of a previously released model the I hope the minor issues are fixed, like the cab controls. What would be very nice but I'm not too sure that it will be implemented is changeable blinds, selectable brakes (EP & Auto), authentic power controller operation and series/parallel selection and engine start up routine.
The class 73 is one of my most favourite locomotives and am very pleased it will be coming to the sim (again) as I had he previous version and it was a bit of a let down for me but won't get into that.
The class 73 is one of my most favourite locomotives and am very pleased it will be coming to the sim (again) as I had he previous version and it was a bit of a let down for me but won't get into that.
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You could change the blinds on the original..
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I couldn't remember if you could or not as I had it on an old setup that I lost when my hard drive failed. I remember the power handles faced the wrong way (when they were meant to be off they were on the full power position and vice versa) and there was a problem with the brakes too if I remember correctly but I didn't have it that long to remember and then it became unavailable.Kernow2 wrote:You could change the blinds on the original..
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Re: DTG Gatwick Express Class 73
Yes, lets hope that they do a good job on it! (Ever the optimist)
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Re: DTG Gatwick Express Class 73
I give up ,even a thicko like me knows the 5 WES had new Mk3 based bodies, and just used
the REP Traction motors,we still do need a 4 REP though ,the nearest to a REP would be a 4BEP(buffet electro pneumatic)REP (restaurant electro pneumatic).
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the REP Traction motors,we still do need a 4 REP though ,the nearest to a REP would be a 4BEP(buffet electro pneumatic)REP (restaurant electro pneumatic).
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