BR Class 24 - WiP from DTG

[atlasduff47]

The cab is much improved, very promising!

[pjt1974]

IF DTG want realistic sounds to record, the exhaust broke on my wagon this afternoon and sounded just like a 24

[deltic009]

IF DTG want realistic sounds to record, the exhaust broke on my wagon this afternoon and sounded just like a 24

I suspect that's probably exactly what the original proprietor of this locomotive used first time around.

[phat2003uk]

IF DTG want realistic sounds to record, the exhaust broke on my wagon this afternoon and sounded just like a 24

I suspect that's probably exactly what the original proprietor of this locomotive used first time around.

[davejc64]

Is the freeware class 24 still available?

[deltic009]

Is the freeware class 24 still available?

I believe that it's part of the UKTS freeware packs, yes.

[deltic009]

And the blue just keeps on coming!

[tycoonkid9]

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Twitch preview stream. Sound are recycled from the Class 25.

[gptech]

Sound are recycled from the Class 25.

Any particular sound or do you mean sounds?
Wouldn't that be fairly prototypical though?; as the class 25 engine was basically the same, just having an inter-cooler fitted to improve cooling and enable them to be pushed a bit further.
Whether they're recycled from the 25, or any other model is immaterial though, if they're representative of the *real thing*....can/could you live with it?

EDIT: and just to try and put the "we serious simmers/gamers all want realism at all costs" in perspective with a look at another genre:

All of the guns in RSV2 start out extremely accurate, based on factory stats and more, before game balance and player expectations come into play. A shotgun firing buckshot, for example, has significantly more penetration in RSV2 than it should. Why? "People associate shotguns with powerful, close-range weapons," Theiren says. So a shotgun blast will punch through walls and armor just fine, even though buckshot is known for its lack of penetration in the real world.

"I take these weapons, and look at what defines them, or what people think defines them," Theiren explains. "For an Uzi, people think it fires lots of bullets, and it's really inaccurate." That, he knows, has nothing to do with reality--if anything, Uzis are considered some of the most reliable and accurate submachine guns around. But the 80s (and Miami Vice in particular) offered us the Uzi as a low-life villain's weapon, spit-fire and out-of-control. "So I make it fire faster than it should. It's about taking the personality of a weapon, and making it shine in the game," Theiren says.

With 200 unique variables for each weapon, including the damage it inflicts at various ranges, how fast it reloads and when bullets tend to start dropping off, a gun in RSV2 could perform precisely like the real thing. "These consoles are so powerful, when you fire a bullet we could factor all of it in: windfall, range, everything about the history of that specific weapon, friction values for the barrel, how many times it's been fired since it was last cleaned," says Theiren. "We could make it as anally realistic as possible. But we're not trying to make a live simulator."

OK, that's from a 5 year old article (http://www.popularmechanics.com/culture ... 8/4255750/) but it illustrates how RSC/DTG anybody else aren't doing anything *odd* by making their products representative of the real thing rather than replicating it.

[jimmyshand]

Gptech I think you'll find the point that Typhoonkid9 is making is that the DTG class 25 sounds are rubbish. Almost as bad as the originals. The DTG class 25 soundset is more reminiscent of a bag of spanners falling down a scaffolding chute. Until AP is able to rescue this soundset the loco is undriveable in its current state due to the sonic torture.

[pjt1974]

I suppose DTG could recycle the sounds from my wagon with it's broken exhaust for the 25. Reverse engineering at it's best

[atlasduff47]

Gptech I think you'll find the point that Typhoonkid9 is making is that the DTG class 25 sounds are rubbish. Almost as bad as the originals. The DTG class 25 soundset is more reminiscent of a bag of spanners falling down a scaffolding chute. Until AP is able to rescue this soundset the loco is undriveable in its current state due to the sonic torture.

[gptech]

Gptech I think you'll find the point that Typhoonkid9 is making is that the DTG class 25 sounds are rubbish

Then the place to post with that would be the Weardale or BR Blue pack threads.

Almost as bad as the originals

Ahhh..they're improved then, albeit slightly.

The DTG class 25 soundset is more reminiscent of a bag of spanners falling down a scaffolding chute

That's one hell of a long chute if it takes the length of a scenario for the spanners to reach the bottom. Not the best critique though is it?...what's wrong with highlighting the flaws in a constructive way? Do you have the model to make a proper assessment?, I'd agree it's too quiet, as are many other items but is it representative? OK, that's a very personal view/opinion but one that can only really come out of having the loco.

Until AP is able to rescue this soundset the loco is undriveable in its current state due to the sonic torture.

Your choice, which is fine by me.

[theorganist]

Gptech I think you'll find the point that Typhoonkid9 is making is that the DTG class 25 sounds are rubbish. Almost as bad as the originals. The DTG class 25 soundset is more reminiscent of a bag of spanners falling down a scaffolding chute. Until AP is able to rescue this soundset the loco is undriveable in its current state due to the sonic torture.

I have been able to drive it with no detrimental effects.

Peter

[Deano55]

Has anybody tried the two models together to hear the difference?
I think the DTG version sounds are a huge improvment on the original. I could not drive the original models because the sounds were so bad, but the updated DTG sounds are much better on the ears.
In my oppinion that is.