Just Trains Advanced Class 60 Probs

shinymac · Post by **shinymac** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:38 pm

HI All

A friend of mine is having probs with his copy of the Just Trains Class 60 "advanced"...

Basically it wont move !....

We have both tried clicking on everything needed to move off, but nothing happens. Thinking it was possibly because we dont understand the "advanced starting procedure", we checked the manual and find that JT have included on this model a config file which allows one to switch between "advanced" driving procedure, and "basic " procedure.

WE clicked on the relevant config file, and instead of a box coming up with our choice of which procedure to choose from..the box appears on the screen for a few miliiseconds, and then dissappears again..doh ! So in other words it doesnt stay on the screen long enough to select the basic procedure for starting the loco and moving off.

Can anyone help please ?

Thanks

Derek

peterfhayes · Post by **peterfhayes** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:40 pm

Derek
Make Sure the engine is running press Z if not
Press "Shift + W" Master Key
Cancel AWS with "Q" key
Choose reverser position "W" or "S"
Cancel DSD with "Q" key
Release brakes press and hold "," comma key.
Set lighting etc Wait until brakes released look at gauges if possible
Apply 1 notch throttle "A" key start to move
Apply extra throttle as needed.
Regards
ph
The config only switches between advanced and simple and you can do that in TS2015 anyway.

peteskink · Post by **peteskink** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:14 pm

If it's starting from cold, don't forget the battery switch - Shift+B / Ctrl+Shift+B. Page 20 of the manual has the instruction:

It has three positions:
ISOLATE - red arrow pointing to 360 degrees. All electrical systems are isolated.
ON -red arrow pointing to 90 degrees. All systems are supplied with power.
OFF - red arrow pointing to 180 degrees. Only lights and the NRN radio are powered.

If you use the external view of the loco, you can see the switch and where the arrow is pointing although you can't control it with the mouse.

Pete

shinymac · Post by **shinymac** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:58 pm

Hi Guys

Thanks for both replies. I will pass them onto my friend in the hope that they work.

Really appreciated that you took the time to explain.

Best Wishes

Derek

markpullinger · Post by **markpullinger** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:56 am

Only one step you missed. don't forget to turn off the DRA if it is lit before trying to apply power!

Trev123 · Post by **Trev123** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:49 am

Another good thing to do is always read the manual.

shinymac · Post by **shinymac** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:50 pm

"Re: Just Trains Advanced Class 60 Probs
by Trev123 on Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:49 am

Another good thing to do is always read the manual"

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......which doesnt give a clear description of a start up procedure from cold, or even a "move off" procedure if the scenario starts with the loco engine already running ! People on hee need to realise that we are not ALL rocket scientists !

Derek

shinymac · Post by **shinymac** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:46 pm

Hi Again All

I have talked my friend through the key commands that I have been given, and he STILL cant get the Class 60 to move !

The problem seems to be that the left hand blue line on the brake gauge, doesnt COMPLETELY release, and there is a sliver of blue at the bottom where the line drops to.

Any further advice please ? All he wants is to be able to load up this loco in a scenario, release the brakes and GO ! He doesnt want to hav to go through ANY complicated procedure just to move it.

Thanks

Derek

gptech · Post by **gptech** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:32 pm

Hi Derek,
he may have to hold the brake handle in the release position until the brakes have fully released (watch the pressure gauges), it could be just that wee bit more prototypical than a straight forward ON/OFF switch.

drfish · Post by **drfish** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:36 pm

Sorry, if he didn't want a complicated procedure, why buy the advanced version, which is the whole point???

Chris

Trev123 · Post by **Trev123** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:09 pm

drfish wrote:Sorry, if he didn't want a complicated procedure, why buy the advanced version, which is the whole point???

Chris

So true.

gptech · Post by **gptech** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:55 pm

Trev123 wrote:
drfish wrote:Sorry, if he didn't want a complicated procedure, why buy the advanced version, which is the whole point???

Chris
So true.

Is there a simple alternative?
Let's not be so quick to shoot the poor guy down in flames, there but for the grace of God etc....

Trev123 · Post by **Trev123** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:41 am

I actually purchased this loco quite some time ago and had never driven it, so I set it up in advanced mode and started up TS loaded up a scenario and after about 5 mins or so got the Class 60 going and completed the scenario. First thing I found in advanced mode the hud only sort of works and you have to be in the cab and use the mouse on the controls to work things.

gptech · Post by **gptech** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:47 pm

Trev123 wrote:I actually purchased this loco quite some time ago and had never driven it, so I set it up in advanced mode and started up TS loaded up a scenario and after about 5 mins or so got the Class 60 going and completed the scenario. First thing I found in advanced mode the hud only sort of works and you have to be in the cab and use the mouse on the controls to work things.

Is that little idiosyncrasy mentioned in the manual?

rcetank · Post by **rcetank** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:24 pm

Trev123 wrote:I actually purchased this loco quite some time ago and had never driven it, so I set it up in advanced mode and started up TS loaded up a scenario and after about 5 mins or so got the Class 60 going and completed the scenario. First thing I found in advanced mode the hud only sort of works and you have to be in the cab and use the mouse on the controls to work things.

Yes I found this out the other day. (sorry I have only just come across this topic.)
The manual also tells you to drag the key for the reverser, only problem it does not tell you where to drag it to and there is not anywhere obvious to put it.
Lucky guess I must have dragged it to the correct place and got it working.