Settle to Carlisle 1975

[ChrisBarnes]

There is water available at quite a few stations but coaling points are few and far between - can you re-fuel a kettle at a diseasel pump?

It's certainly flammable, but it might run straight out of the tender coal bunker and would be a bit hard to shovel. In all seriousness, no, I don't think so.

Chris

[stuart666]

There is a coal point at Upperby yard, and another one at Long Meg, but in fairness you probably dont need many, even 4 tons should probalby see you over the hump. There are some water points at lazonby and appleby, and the passing loops at ribblehead have some water points too. All were present in the 1970s, but unlikely I would think they would still work at that point. Even the water troughs had gone by then I think.

Bob I believe adjusted the original track rule, but as far as the upload is concerns it uses the original. It doesnt matter, because it seems that as soon as the track is laid, most of the reason for the track rule is redundant, at least as far as curve is concerned. So far what ive looked at on my computer seems ok, but as said I really need to find time to finish the signalling before I upload it.

Great work on the track Bob!

[hertsbob]

Thanks.

Hey, Squatch. Trackwork isn't nerdy!

I only changed a couple of values in the track rule so I could do the Long Preston - Hellifield stretch, so nothing major and nowhere near as bodgy as what I did to the Woodhead trackrule for Wycombe Branch. The track is default S&C too.

As Stuart says, once the track is laid and saved then it will stay there whatever you do to the track rule subsequently even if some of the track properties need sorting out when the default track rule is reinstsated.

Last night I did a full cache verify and everything is still fine. Apart from the water supply in Appleby that I forgot to replace...

Simon - I think you'll have a while to put some pennies aside while Stuart does his thing. But I'm sure you could quite happily pretend that you're buying this version in it's own right, in a slightly roundabout way.

More, ahem, 'testing' of the route required, methinks.

Cheers

Bob

[rabid]

I had quite a lot of haulage over the S&C in the early 80's, what major changes have there been since 1975 (apart from the single-tracking of Ribblehead)?

Cheers

[stuart666]

I had quite a lot of haulage over the S&C in the early 80's, what major changes have there been since 1975 (apart from the single-tracking of Ribblehead)?

Cheers

Well Ais Gill, Horton in Ribblesdale and Long Meg box are all long gone, as has the track layout they all controlled. Ditto Settle box (though junction is still there, minus the sidings). Armathwaite box is still there, but now just a museum. Warcop line is still theoretically connected, though as there is a scrapyard on it which doesnt seem to be moving anytime soon, its debateable about when exactly again its going to be used. I know the preserved line at Warcop have a long term ambition to do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eden_Valley_Railway

The main difference is that the quarry at Horton is no longer connected, though happily it seems at least one of the quarries may get their rail connection back to reduce the amount of lorry traffic.
http://www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/1099 ... l/?ref=rss

I think the line speed in the 1980s was already in the 60mph region, which it still is. Im surprised there has been no attempt to raise line speed, other than the lifting of the TSR (Psr!) at Kirkby Thore. That got lifted finally a couple of years ago now I believe. So a lots changed, but quite a lot amazingly the same. The main visible difference is the loss of all the telegraph poles.

[Squatch]

Thanks.

Hey, Squatch. Trackwork isn't nerdy!

I only changed a couple of values in the track rule so I could do the Long Preston - Hellifield stretch, so nothing major and nowhere near as bodgy as what I did to the Woodhead trackrule for Wycombe Branch. The track is default S&C too.

Cheers

Bob

I know, I actually think it's my favourite bit of the game. Better than scenery, urgh!

Would you be able to note down (or copy and paste) the changes to the track rule you made, as I'd really like to use it for my route, and while I've dabbled in the track rule, I'm not entirely happy with it. Either on here or PM would be great if you could find the time.

Thanks, Squatch

[stuart666]

Thanks to young Bob here, the trackwork has been comprehensively reworked. Probably needs some work at Carlisle, but Bob has done a stellar job, so many thanks to him

Also has some signalling improvements based on ideas from Jeff. Also managed to get the Skipton bay platform to finally work, so you can use that in Quickdrive now with your DMU.

[AndyUK]

I got an update for it via Steam just now. On looking in the Route folder I see I've got a file called 'RouteProperties.xml.to_install' with today's date and 'RouteProperties.xml' dated 21/03/2014. The route does load OK but does the presence of 'RouteProperties.xml.to_install' indicate that something has gone wrong with the update?

Andy L

[stuart666]

TBH, im afraid ive absolutely no idea. If it worries you might advice is to unsubscribe, delete the route, and resubscribe to it. Steam downloads occasionally drop things, so Id be curious to know if anyone else if having trouble.

[AndyUK]

It's all a bit academic now anyway Stuart! I looked again this morning intending to examine the contents of 'RouteProperties.xml.to_install' and it had gone. 'RouteProperties.xml' now has a date and time corresponding to that of yesterday's update so I can only assume that, although I'd looked at the folder several minutes after the update was complete, I'd caught Steam in the middle of doing its thing and that ''RouteProperties.xml.to_install' has now indeed been installed!

Andy L

[stuart666]

It's all a bit academic now anyway Stuart! I looked again this morning intending to examine the contents of 'RouteProperties.xml.to_install' and it had gone. 'RouteProperties.xml' now has a date and time corresponding to that of yesterday's update so I can only assume that, although I'd looked at the folder several minutes after the update was complete, I'd caught Steam in the middle of doing its thing and that ''RouteProperties.xml.to_install' has now indeed been installed!

Andy L

Thats good, glad its working ok Andy.

For future additions, im thinking of putting in the bypass line in Carlisle, and possibly the line to Merrygill quarry through Kirkby Stephen East. But its finding the time to do things really, at the moment I feel a bit frazzled and could do with a bit of a rest. We will see. Personally I think the main problem with Carlisle is the lack of decent sidings to drop stuff off and pick it up. But I really cant bring myself to face putting in Kingsmoor yard. Its not like Keith hasnt dont it brilliantly twice already.

[pjt1974]

Really liking the 'face lift' or 'face drop' of the route. Good work all round

One thing I have found though is some of the signalling around Hellifield doesn't seem to want to play ball. Especially coming from Blackburn into Hellifield down and leaving Hellifield heading north to Settle Junction.

I'll have a play around with it myself later to see if I can find a solution.

[stuart666]

Really liking the 'face lift' or 'face drop' of the route. Good work all round

One thing I have found though is some of the signalling around Hellifield doesn't seem to want to play ball. Especially coming from Blackburn into Hellifield down and leaving Hellifield heading north to Settle Junction.

I'll have a play around with it myself later to see if I can find a solution.

If you can type out the coordinates of where it occurs, of the basic location, I can take a look at it and up a fix. Ive not noticed any problems from Hellifield to Settle junction, but I have to admit ive not tried coming in of the Blackburn line.

[pjt1974]

Sent you a PM Stuart