Class 91 on sale

[jimmyshand]

As usual the sounds are limp and completely ruin the immersion. I was half hoping RSC would try to pull out the stops for the long awaited 91, but alas no.

Lame sounds are the killer blow for me, no deal and I won't be buying this until the sounds are improved. High quality and realism of sound is absolutely essential to me and a lack of attention in this area has been the Achilles Heel of many an RSC product and is the first thing I now look for in reviews of their rolling stock. No running sounds, poor track joint sounds (although hopefully not the default Kuju snare drum sound surely?), an all too familiar story.

[msey0002]

Anyone notice the DVT has no horn, it only comes from the locomotive? I doubt this is the case in real life?

Very unhappy with the sounds, but not bad otherwise, i like it. A step further from DTG's usual releases.

[firetrap1]

the DVT does have a horn. In fact, it also sounds different from the class 91 horn.

[jp4712]

I've just been driving the DVT and the horn is absolutely working just fine, in fact with nicely and subtly different sounds to the 91 loco.

Why are people so quick to criticise with words like 'limp' or 'lame'? The 91 sounds very much like a 91 to me.

Paul

[37114]

A very good effort and a shame we have no suitable EMU's to run with itit

I am aware of a Blue Grey/NSE 317/2 in the works (not by me), we just need a 313 now.

Regards,

I believe Waggonz are dealing with the 313/315/508.

[crumplezone]

I've managed to finally figure out where the ruddy 91 sounds are linked to and have replaced most of them with the class 90 bar the bogie sounds, what I will probably have to do is rename the bogie sounds from the class 90 and pop them into the folder to get them to work the way I want. The actual bogie flang and other interesting sounds are fine, more just the clunk you hear over the railjoints, its not to much different the the EMU railjoint sounds off Brighton route at the moment.

I've actually reverted the horn change after consulting some reference material as they are correct, though the DVTs horn loop does need readjustment as it cuts off to early and doesn't loop quite right.

I have to say though whoever works on the final bin and proxy files for the sounds of DTG addons really does need to stop with the scattering of files in loads of folders, its completely all over and not even in the usual format. You don't have for example a class 91 Sound.bin but class 91 underframe.bin which would normally be the class 91 sound.bin file. Then you have sound split into exterior and cab which you don't really need to have in seperate folders and 3 sets of bogie bins in one folder and another bogies file in the main folder, not to mention for some reason a class 43 sound folder.

Also since the driving vigilence system doesn't have a notification you can't for example do a direct copy of the 90s cab bins as you'll just emergency break without any sound reference to the driver vigilence warning going off. Haven't quite figured out which line I need to edit in the 90 files for that to work correctly as was replacing the cab bins to have the throttle with sound on the lever.

Oh well, figured most of it out and the 91 having the 90s sounds make its alot more audioably enjoyable to the ears.

In regards to a earlier comment about slow acceleration gain. I found it is slow to gain speed after 115mph if you have the cruise control on, however manual throttle control had me overspeeding to 126mph on a 1:304 uphill. Also for whatever reason the 91 is more happy accelerating from the front than pushing the loco load up to the higher speeds.

My only critism on the 225 sets performance would be its braking power when driving from the DVT end seems weaker than you would in the 91, but this maybe prototypical as the 91 has both loco and the main brake while the DVT just has the main brake option according to the HUD controls.

[firetrap1]

I have just uploaded a fix for the cab view of the class 91 to enable everyone to see out when it's raining.

Class 91 Cab View Fix [7231 bytes] - Class 91 Cab View Fix.zip File ID: 32487 Date: 27 Feb 2014 - 843 Downloads

[Crundles]

I've just been driving the DVT and the horn is absolutely working just fine, in fact with nicely and subtly different sounds to the 91 loco.

Why are people so quick to criticise with words like 'limp' or 'lame'? The 91 sounds very much like a 91 to me.

Paul

Excuse me, but as a long time patron of RSC I've seldom voiced my opinion publicly and have on more than a couple of occasions thought the blanket criticism they so often receive unwarranted. I stand by what I said though - the default sounds are very weak in my opinion.

[rgreenrail]

I had also noticed a performance difference, as I was travelling without cruise control and easily got up to 125. But after using cruise control, the speed stuck after about 114.

[749006]

Is there a way I can turn off the DSD? Or set an alerter to come up like on AP's Class 90? I keep going into emergency brakes because of it! I'm not keen on driving in the cab for the whole journey, which sounds odd I know.

It does not sound odd. I have not upgraded my JT 60 for the same reason.
I too would like to know if you can switch the Vigilance off.

Peter

[theorganist]

I've just been driving the DVT and the horn is absolutely working just fine, in fact with nicely and subtly different sounds to the 91 loco.

Why are people so quick to criticise with words like 'limp' or 'lame'? The 91 sounds very much like a 91 to me.

Paul

Because this is the internet, everything goes!

Peter

[pjt1974]

Is there a way I can turn off the DSD? Or set an alerter to come up like on AP's Class 90? I keep going into emergency brakes because of it! I'm not keen on driving in the cab for the whole journey, which sounds odd I know.

Have you had a look in the manual?

On the Class 90 it is 'Ctrl+R - DSD viligance ON/OFF'.

[749006]

Is there a way I can turn off the DSD? Or set an alerter to come up like on AP's Class 90? I keep going into emergency brakes because of it! I'm not keen on driving in the cab for the whole journey, which sounds odd I know.

Have you had a look in the manual?

Yes. Not found anything yet.
Do you know of some way to isolate it?

Peter

[Mr395008]

Is there a way I can turn off the DSD? Or set an alerter to come up like on AP's Class 90? I keep going into emergency brakes because of it! I'm not keen on driving in the cab for the whole journey, which sounds odd I know.

Have you had a look in the manual?

Yes. Not found anything yet.
Do you know of some way to isolate it?

Peter

Yes, I've looked in the manual. Hence why I've asked on here.

[ashgray]

Just purchased and ran one of the scenarios into KX requiring the additional stop at Stevenage. Looks very good, sounds OK, and I like the different type of passenger view (not that I use that one much). However, it's fatally flawed for me, as one daren't leave the driver's view to look around in case the vigilance alarm cuts in (which it does every minute of the journey) and applies the emergency brakes without one noticing - it doesn't operate the visual alarm and there's no audible alarm if you're outside the cab, so unless you happen to be in the cab, you wouldn't be aware of the need to cancel the alert.

Let's hope this anomaly gets fixed, as I cannot find a workaround for it in the manual.

Ash