WCML Over Shap

stuart666 · Post by **stuart666** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:39 am

I think you are all in for a treat. If you remotely like BR diesel or electric traction, or just liked WCML North, then its the route for you. I liked the Morecambe section, interesting track layout from Heysham, its got early pattern DMU written all over it.

Happy coincidence for me of course, it means I can reference all the rolling stock for my Settle and Carlisle route.

37114 · Post by **37114** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:30 am

Just got it and well to be honest first impressions aren't that good.

1. It looks nowhere near as good as some of the more recent UK and German routes
2. There's no point motors on the points
3. Missing speed warning boards
4. MK2 coaches have MK3 sounds applied

Still the best UK route to date though so thank you Keith!

theorganist · Post by **theorganist** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:42 am

37114 wrote:Just got it and well to be honest first impressions aren't that good.

1. It looks nowhere near as good as some of the more recent UK and German routes
2. There's no point motors on the points
3. Missing speed warning boards
4. MK2 coaches have MK3 sounds applied

Still the best UK route to date though so thank you Keith!

Seems a bit conflicting first you say it looks nowhere as good as some of the more recent UK and German routes then you say still the best UK route to date!

I am/was planning to get this tonight.

Pete

220389 · Post by **220389** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:48 am

Pete i say still get it.

Minor things like no Point Motors doesn't really concern me, especially since we have Neutral Zones on the route.

Anyway shall post some screenshots up a bit later on.

Chris

stuart666 · Post by **stuart666** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:51 am

theorganist wrote:
37114 wrote:Just got it and well to be honest first impressions aren't that good.

1. It looks nowhere near as good as some of the more recent UK and German routes
2. There's no point motors on the points
3. Missing speed warning boards
4. MK2 coaches have MK3 sounds applied

Still the best UK route to date though so thank you Keith!
Seems a bit conflicting first you say it looks nowhere as good as some of the more recent UK and German routes then you say still the best UK route to date!

I am/was planning to get this tonight.

Pete

Just get it. Personally I would be hard pressed to notice a point motor doing 110mph, but thats just my personal opinion.

theorganist · Post by **theorganist** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:52 am

220389 wrote:Pete i say still get it.

Minor things like no Point Motors doesn't really concern me, especially since we have Neutral Zones on the route.

Anyway shall post some screenshots up a bit later on.

Chris

Thanks Chris,

I will definatley get it, I have some "sim time" tonight after organ practice so thats my evening sorted!

Peter

ckmemphis · Post by **ckmemphis** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:55 am

I believe the route includes EPS speeds for modern tilting trains, so that should be good... I'm looking forward to Super Elevation, scenery and the layout... Always did like Preston - Carlisle more than Carlisle to Glasgow...

I wonder how long Mr AP is going to need to produce he's monster scenario packs. I can see at least 3 packs: Modern Stock, BR Blue Era, Freight(Modern), Freight(BR Blue).... Maybe more....? Damn, I can't wait...

37114 · Post by **37114** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:57 am

theorganist wrote:
37114 wrote:Just got it and well to be honest first impressions aren't that good.

1. It looks nowhere near as good as some of the more recent UK and German routes
2. There's no point motors on the points
3. Missing speed warning boards
4. MK2 coaches have MK3 sounds applied

Still the best UK route to date though so thank you Keith!
Seems a bit conflicting first you say it looks nowhere as good as some of the more recent UK and German routes then you say still the best UK route to date!

I am/was planning to get this tonight.

Pete

It is because of the endless scenario possibilities!

220389 · Post by **220389** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:59 am

ckmemphis wrote:I believe the route includes EPS speeds for modern tilting trains, so that should be good... I'm looking forward to Super Elevation, scenery and the layout... Always did like Preston - Carlisle more than Carlisle to Glasgow...

I wonder how long Mr AP is going to need to produce he's monster scenario packs. I can see at least 3 packs: Modern Stock, BR Blue Era, Freight(Modern), Freight(BR Blue).... Maybe more....? Damn, I can't wait...

It does include EPS Speed limits for 221s and 390s. I can't imagine it will take long for scenarios to appear from AP. Got two in making from me, One being continuation of my sleeper scenarios. Also one idea for my painfully slow journey on the 27th of December with 50mph limits

Chris

ckmemphis · Post by **ckmemphis** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:03 pm

Then I'm a happy chappy... I love the plastic fantastic stock... 390, 221, 66, 70, 86, 325... I can't wait to put them on the route... And EPS with curve easements are going to be so much easier to work with...

theorganist · Post by **theorganist** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:04 pm

Hopefully AP may do a BR period one like he has done for some of the other routes!

Did EMU's work this far up in BR days? If so I would love to see a 304 appear, unfortunately the most likely source of one of those has gone!

Peter

rkk01 · Post by **rkk01** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:06 pm

I can see at least 3 packs: Modern Stock, BR Blue Era, Freight(Modern), Freight(BR Blue).... Maybe more....? Damn, I can't wait...

Is that a filthy, lumbering hulk of blue that I hear whistling away in the distance....

220389 · Post by **220389** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:07 pm

theorganist wrote:Hopefully AP may do a BR period one like he has done for some of the other routes!

Did EMU's work this far up in BR days? If so I would love to see a 304 appear, unfortunately the most likely source of one of those has gone!

Peter

Wouldn't have a clue. If had a 370 (APT-P) then we would have a EMU for 80's period at least.

Chris

rfletcher72 · Post by **rfletcher72** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:13 pm

theorganist wrote:Did EMU's work this far up in BR days? If so I would love to see a 304 appear, unfortunately the most likely source of one of those has gone!

Peter

From 1974 to at least 1982 there was a daily working from New Street to Preston booked for an EMU, so that would be either a 304 or a 310. The various info I have for the period varies from this service terminating at Preston, or continuing on to Lancaster - I see my WTT's being put to good use over the coming weeks

.

Regards,

callum1122334455 · Post by **callum1122334455** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:23 pm

37114 wrote:Just got it and well to be honest first impressions aren't that good.

1. It looks nowhere near as good as some of the more recent UK and German routes
2. There's no point motors on the points
3. Missing speed warning boards
4. MK2 coaches have MK3 sounds applied

Still the best UK route to date though so thank you Keith!

Surely you are joking? That's the biggest contradiction of the year. Not as good as recent routes but the best UK route so far?

As for the missing point motors comment...

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