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Re: The ideal TS2014 Rig

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I might add a sidenote to this conversation...

When you say 'perfect rig' you shouldn't aim that high. Given that I took a major plunge in buying the best parts available during Christmas 2012, at a price of around £2200, with the way TS2014 is designed I still can't get consistently good frames at most settings. The way the game engine loads assets on a route means that every minute or so my frames drop to 10-15fps while TS loads all the assets on the next tile.

Also, don't think that my system is faulty or something, as it's more than capable of running CryEngine at full settings. When TS2014 isn't loading assets, I can drive at max settings at a steady 40-50fps. So regardless of how much you spend on your system, you can't expect gloriously smooth driving at a consistent level, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone on here managing to drive in TS2014 without this intermittent lag. So keep this in mind when buying, the best of the best specs won't do you any good if you want that 'perfect' gameplay.

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Thanks Steve,
With future sale shopping spree's and an interest in the U.S. as well as the UK, I reckon we may need 4TB Hd's soon :D !

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Yeah that's what I was trying to find out Kev I was wondering if spending more than that price tag was going to give better results and it seems not, so I guess that price is going to give you as good performance as you can get regards TS2014.

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markjudith wrote:You're right Mike, I have a 1TB HDD on my rig with steam & O/S installed, it was the space limitation that put me off SSD's.
Back to the pro's & cons of HDD v SSD :)

Just wondering if it would be ok to install Steam/TS2014 on a 2TB HDD but have the O/S on a smaller SSD or would this give a more inferior performance than having Steam/TS2014 installed on a 2TB HDD with the O/S?

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I have my OS on an SSD and the steam folder on a 1TB hdd, runs fine with no appreciable stutter difference. And I am non technically minded but still had a go at building my own water cooled rig, it isn't as difficult as you think and pretty straight forward, plugging things in their respective slots/plugs etc, give it a go you will feel quite good when its finished, bit nerve wracking switching it on for the first time though! :lol:
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Hi, just to make a comment, is there a system out there that will run TS totally stutter free in all areas on all routes? I have watched hundreds of videos on here and youtube, and I am yet to find one that is stutter free, even RSC videos stutter,slightly, so maybe throwing money at the problem is a waste of time,and pc eutopia does not exist,and a more efficient game engine is the answer,my system runs any program on the market today without a blink,except TS,programs such as skyrim and assassins creed black flag are resource hoggers, but i never have even the slightest stutter,my view is TS suffers from too many bolt-ons to a program that was out of date when it was first released as RS.
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Re: The ideal TS2014 Rig

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growler37 wrote:Hi, just to make a comment, is there a system out there that will run TS totally stutter free in all areas on all routes? I have watched hundreds of videos on here and youtube, and I am yet to find one that is stutter free, even RSC videos stutter,slightly, so maybe throwing money at the problem is a waste of time,and pc eutopia does not exist,and a more efficient game engine is the answer,my system runs any program on the market today without a blink,except TS,programs such as skyrim and assassins creed black flag are resource hoggers, but i never have even the slightest stutter,my view is TS suffers from too many bolt-ons to a program that was out of date when it was first released as RS.
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Read my previous post...

The TS2014 engine has handled it's data loading in the same manner since Kuju designed the original game engine. Given that detail levels have significantly increased on routes from the past few iterations of the game, there should have been an overhaul a long time ago. I can say that practically no lag is experienced on my high-end machine with old default routes like London to Oxford or the West Somerset. These are routes that were designed before the graphics upgrade, they are rather bare in comparison to the likes of London to Peterborough, so there is an indication that the engine isn't up to the task. Unfortunately you'll never get a stutter-free experience for the new routes...

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Re: The ideal TS2014 Rig

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growler37 wrote: is there a system out there that will run TS totally stutter free in all areas on all routes?
A slightly shorter answer than Kev's is "NO"--the the reasons he outlined.
Another thing to bear in mind when looking for "The ideal TS2014 rig" and sourcing todays leading edge components is that in less than 2 years they'll be run of the mill; by which time (hopefully) Dovetail/RSC will have delivered on the hinted promise of a new game engine.
I certainly wouldn't hold off buying a new PC today, any improvements to the games core are a fair way off, but neither would I be seriously looking at spending much more than a grand on a PC just to play the game.
Mark, building your own PC isn't as difficult as many believe; it probably takes longer to decide on which components to use than actually putting them together so don't discount the idea just yet. You can save a bit of money by wise/well advised buying but the biggest advantage is that you can choose the most appropriate components rather than "the best of what the shop stocks". Having said that you'd probably spend the same but end up with a better system :)
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No, they will never be stutter free for the reasons given above. Mainly because route builders will always try to improve their routes with better and better detail, so they are always trying to keep up with the latest hardware. New hardware comes out tomorrow, then the builders will add detail accordingly, a never ending circle.

You should not take stutter in videos as being how the program actually runs though. Some programs which take videos of TS2014 can't keep up with the program, so it is the video itself which is causing the stutter.

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mikesimpson wrote:You should not take stutter in videos as being how the program actually runs though. Some programs which take videos of TS2014 can't keep up with the program, so it is the video itself which is causing the stutter.
...and no matter how smooth the video is, you're dependant on your internet connection not slowing down when viewing it streamed on-line.
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