File 31708 - Class 360 Heathrow XP reskin - invisible cars

[chrisonline]

Re: UKTS file 31708 - Heathrow Express reskin of RSC Class 360 EMU

I am trying to use this reskin in a TS2014 Workshop scenario "Heathrow Connect" by swapping with the regular class 360 using RW_Tools. But strangely, only the middle cars (TSO and PTSO) appear, while the end units (DMCO A and DMCO B) are invisible. The space is there on the track where they should be, and even the couplings are there floating in mid air, but no physical body shell. Nor is there an interior cab view (though the camera is positioned at the front of the "invisible" car).

The scenario doesn't crash - another AI vehicle arrives at the station after a few minutes.

I have tried both versions of the reskin. I have cleared the cache, I have done a full file verification, and even rebooted the PC.

With 320 downloads of the file and no comments, I assume others don't have the problem.

(also posting this in the comments section of the file's page)

Any ideas?

[Trev123]

Sounds to me that you haven't followed these instructions properly.

To install first install the RWP then copy and paste DMCO_A.GeoPcDx and DMCO_B.GeoPcDx from

RailworksAssetsRSCGEMLRailVehiclesElectricClass360DefaultEngineDMCO

to

RailworksAssetsRSCGEMLRailVehiclesElectricClass360HCEngineDMCO
RailworksAssetsRSCGEMLRailVehiclesElectricClass360HC1EngineDMCO

Next copy and paste the PTSO.GeoPcDX from

RailworksAssetsRSCGEMLRailVehiclesElectricClass360DefaultEnginePTSO

to

RailworksAssetsRSCGEMLRailVehiclesElectricClass360HCEnginePTSO
RailworksAssetsRSCGEMLRailVehiclesElectricClass360HC1EnginePTSO

And last but not least copy and paste the TSO.GeoPcDx from

RailworksAssetsRSCGEMLRailVehiclesElectricClass360DefaultEngineTSO

to

RailworksAssetsRSCGEMLRailVehiclesElectricClass360HCEngineTSO
RailworksAssetsRSCGEMLRailVehiclesElectricClass360HC1EngineTSO

[chrisonline]

I really have. While I'm not by any means an expert, I do understand enough to know what I'm moving and where, and what the files are. I understand the file structure well. So after trying various tweaks, I eventually erased everything and completely started again with a fresh download from the site even! This time VERY CAREFULLY ensuring I followed every instruction to the letter, and making no assumptions. Same result.

If I'm missing something, then I am not seeing the wood for the trees, but I really have double and triple-checked

[Merlin75]

I'm afraid someone else will have to fix this. I'm no longer able to get this game to work so won't beable to look into it. I've reinstalled it about four times and no joy so as of today this failworks has been ditched.

[gptech]

I've just downloaded this reskin, the .bin for DMCO A has quite a few references to a Greater Anglia liveried model, which I don't think is a default item. Too late for more digging, but I'll have a look tomorrow.....err, later today

[Merlin75]

Try this download file 31672 and copy and paste the geo's from the white greater anglia one.

[gptech]

It's not the .Geos that's the issue; it's that he hasn't a folder named 'Gretaer Amglia' (yet) so when the HC .bins call for the door animation, the numbering list, some script and probably more stuff they can't find it.

Installing the Greater Anglia version will work, as would copying the ..\RailWorks\Assets\RSC\GEML\RailVehicles\Electric\Class360\Default folder and re-naming it ..\RailWorks\Assets\RSC\GEML\RailVehicles\Electric\Class360\Greater Anglia,or better still editing the .bins themselves to point to \Default\ instead of \Greater Anglia\ where applicable.

[Merlin75]

Just do any of the above that gptech has said. If I can ever get this game to work again I'll try and sort this out so it only looks for the default one.

[gptech]

Give me half an hour and I'll sort out a single revised .bin to see if the theory holds water.

[gptech]

Chris, download this--- http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=891 ... 1188869723 and extract the two files in to your ..\RailWorks\Assets\RSC\GEML\RailVehicles\Electric\Class360\HC\Engine\DMCO folder (or extract to your desktop and cut/copy them in to the right place).
The two files are a revised .bin, pointing to the files contained in the HC reskin and the other (Class360 DMCO A.bin.bak) is a back up of what you already have just in case the revision doesn't work--if that happens just delete the .bin and rename the .bak version back to .bin by deleting the .bak bit of the file name)

Give it a whirl, if it gets the DMCO A to show in game I'll run through the others.

Gary

[gptech]

...If I can ever get this game to work again....

Have you started a thread outlining your woes Steve?, might be something fairly easy to alter that's causing you grief.

[chrisonline]

Chris, download this--- http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=891 ... 1188869723 and extract the two files in to your ..\RailWorks\Assets\RSC\GEML\RailVehicles\Electric\Class360\HC\Engine\DMCO folder (or extract to your desktop and cut/copy them in to the right place).
The two files are a revised .bin, pointing to the files contained in the HC reskin and the other (Class360 DMCO A.bin.bak) is a back up of what you already have just in case the revision doesn't work--if that happens just delete the .bin and rename the .bak version back to .bin by deleting the .bak bit of the file name)

Give it a whirl, if it gets the DMCO A to show in game I'll run through the others.

Gary

Gary, many thanks for your help on this.

Unfortunately that doesn't make any difference. It doesn't crash anything - but just gives exactly the same result, neither end unit on either rake visible. I made sure I was using (and viewing) the HC version

You are right - I have no folders for Anglian; I haven't seen anything of that one, I just have the Default Class 360 (blue) which came with the GEML route.

Chris

[Merlin75]

I think I might of fixed it afher reading the fixes on here and RWA. Abit more testing to do just to make sure.

[chrisonline]

Damn this delay in getting posts approved. My last post only just appeared (poste dit about 2.5 hours ago) and now I have an update, so sorry if this contradicts. (If I post more frequently, will the approval process and delay be dropped?)

UPDATE . . yes, it DOES work! I looked at the folder and noticed that your edit was on the DMCO A.bin file, whereas I had used the DMCO A nd.bin file because that was in the original scenario files with the default class 360, before I swapped for the reskin (no idea what the difference is, but both seem to work the same).

So having noticed that, I switched out again to use the correct "non-nd" file, and it WORKS! (including cab view etc)

Once you pointed the way, I have been able to quickly find/replace all the Greater Anglia references with HC or HC1 as appropriate, and tried all permutations of HC/HC1 and nd and non-nd bin files - all work perfectly

Again, many thanks for your help, it is really appreciated.

BTW, what *is* the difference between nd.bin files and the non-nd .bin files? Is there a subtle difference that I am missing?

Chris

[Easilyconfused]

Damn this delay in getting posts approved. My last post only just appeared (poste dit about 2.5 hours ago) and now I have an update, so sorry if this contradicts. (If I post more frequently, will the approval process and delay be dropped?)

Chris

Hi Chris,

New forum members are on post approval until the moderators are sure they can post within the forum rules. Although you joined some time back you have only really started posting yesterday. Before then I can only find 4 posts which is not enough to put you on normal posting. There is no set number of posts but it is usually less than 20 or so. Mindless posts such as "Me too" on dozens of threads don't count.

Today, I have not been around so much since the finale of the British Touring Car racing has been on all day on ITV4 and in between races I have been testing train simulator activities so have not been actively monitoring the forums for new posts needing approval.