Mitigating the "blue haze....."

[sargnickfury]

I I understand using the blue haze on far distant mountains, but seeing on fairly close mountains has always annoyed me, but I noticed in youtube videos some people seem to not have this problem as much as me....

Example:

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On the closer mtns in video their still visable and green. Would prefer better textures for mtns in general, but this looks better then blue shadow on a mtn that is only a couple of miles away. What am I doing wrong? For me on same map even closer mtns would be blued out even on clear day. I have settings maxed as well and plenty of GPU horsepower with a GTX 370 ftw edition. Any advice? can this be changed in some ini somewhere?

[sargnickfury]

Has no one found a solution? Perhaps would FXAA tools provide one? I am still confused as to why other's videos do not seem to have as much haze as mine does even when I have settings maxed.

[ChrisBarnes]

It's to do with the weather blueprint selected in the scenario, if I remember correctly. You can set the distance from camera the fog starts at, the distance where objects and terrain are no longer visible, and the colour of the fog. The default clear skies weather will set that as blue I would have thought. You do need some fog though, otherwise the draw-distance pop-in/pop-out and far distance terrain paint will rear their ugly heads, so you'd need to find a sweet spot that meets your tastes. But you can do some pretty awesome stuff with the fog to get different effects:


A blizzard I made for a scenario on WLoS.

Newbouy has also done some fantastic weather blueprints to get some really atmospheric smog, I think it represents.
EDIT: A link to see Newbouy's good work: http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1658236

Chris

[sargnickfury]

No I get it when it's in that sort of weather. But on a clear day in the Alps at Noon I feel I should be able to see a mountain that is about 2-3 miles away.But often it's still blued.

[firstborn]

I think you will have to post some screenshot examples of what you are talking about Nick.

The video you linked to is basically exactly what i see in game, so not sure what you are seeing....

Do you have all your settings on max - particularly the draw distance?

[chrisreb]

RS have already announced improved draw distance in the update which is only a few weeks away.

[Crundles]

I quite like the aerial perspective in game. Have you tried AP's lighting enhancement pack? I found it helped improve the sterility you sometimes get in term so lighting.

[peterfhayes]

On my setups there is also a significant difference in clarity using the same route and scenario, same video cards and monitors one with TSX OFF which is much clearer than with TSX ON which is "less clear" ie hazier in the distance, possibly due to FXAA effects??
pH

[theokus]

RS have already announced improved draw distance in the update which is only a few weeks away.

There is more chris.
The game &screen has an kind of een ugly blue cast.
Came with the new game engine.

[theokus]

On my setups there is also a significant difference in clarity using the same route and scenario, same video cards and monitors one with TSX OFF which is much clearer than with TSX ON which is "less clear" ie hazier in the distance, possibly due to FXAA effects??
pH

Yes indeed.
Came up for the first time with the new game engine.
bdw. I hate it
It is a kind of a blue, purple tinge.
Totally NO natural colors.

[peterfhayes]

Theokus
One thing that I did do to try to make the colours "better" is that I calibrated my monitors using the manufacturer's details then Windows 7 and finally Nvidia control panel. There is professional software out there to do this but these methods did seem to improve the colours quite a bit.
ph

[mikesimpson]

Further to add to the gripes, my favorite hate is the black snow as shown in the blizzard picture above. Snow is 'WHITE' and not sooty grey, especially when deep.

Mike

[theokus]

Theokus
One thing that I did do to try to make the colours "better" is that I calibrated my monitors using the manufacturer's details then Windows 7 and finally Nvidia control panel. There is professional software out there to do this but these methods did seem to improve the colours quite a bit.
ph

Hi Peter,

For years I'm doing photography.
And I use the Colormunki.
Have an Eizo and a cheaper Iiyama (monitors he).
Can't see much of a difference

[theokus]

Further to add to the gripes, my favorite hate is the black snow as shown in the blizzard picture above. Snow is 'WHITE' and not sooty grey, especially when deep.

Mike

I never thought to hear a word of criticism of "our" Mike
But you'r right.

(There is some hope, I read here and there that something is done for the route builders).

[Juanillo99]

The cause of the blue haze is in the blueprint of "TimeOfDay" used by the route. Specifically, in these lines:

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					<FogColour>
						<cHcColour>
							<Red d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="000000A05B5ADA3F" d:precision="string">0.411765</Red>
							<Green d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="000000A05B5ADA3F" d:precision="string">0.411765</Green>
							<Blue d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="000000A05B5ADA3F" d:precision="string">0.411765</Blue>
							<Alpha d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="000000000000F03F" d:precision="string">1</Alpha>
						</cHcColour>
					</FogColour>
					<FogStart d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000709740" d:precision="string">1500</FogStart>
					<FogEnd d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="00000000006AD840" d:precision="string">25000</FogEnd>

This code is repeated in different periods of the day (BreakOfDawn, Dawn, Morning, Noon, EarlyEvening, Dusk, Night, and MidNight), and in it is defined the fog colour and distance from initial and final vision.