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Re: Voyager Advanced
I'd imagine it's a new type of marker. Where else would you add a system failure?
My posts are my opinion, and should be read as such.
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Voyager Advanced
I had heard about this a while back, but had to keep schtum. It's supposed to be very immersive by all accounts, and it looks like the bar has been raised.
Now if JT did this to the 60 I would get excited
Great to see an upgrade path, sounds like excellent value for existing owners.
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Now if JT did this to the 60 I would get excited
Great to see an upgrade path, sounds like excellent value for existing owners.
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Re: Voyager Advanced
Feature list looks awesome! It's awkward paying for upgraded stuff since we've been spoilt by RW with its free upgrades. Nevertheless, I don't think we've seen an upgrade this comprehensive before. Reworked bogies would be welcome!
Edit: I just saw that the 'real' amount existing owners will be paying is £3.30. I think that is very reasonable considering how extensive the upgrades are. We've had a long time to enjoy the old Voyager. Minor gripe is - I feel sorry for people who only bought it, say last night to find this out!
Edit: I just saw that the 'real' amount existing owners will be paying is £3.30. I think that is very reasonable considering how extensive the upgrades are. We've had a long time to enjoy the old Voyager. Minor gripe is - I feel sorry for people who only bought it, say last night to find this out!
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Re: Voyager Advanced
Quite, it's like a brand new train but no doubt we'll see some negativity. I wonder if it'll install to a new folder?
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Re: Voyager Advanced
Sold! £7.99 bargain! Well done JT.
Edit: £4.59! Nice.
Edit: £4.59! Nice.
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Re: Voyager Advanced
Heres the list if anyone has not read them.
NINE MODELS
Class 220 (non-tilting) four-car formation:
•DMF (driving vehicle with First Class seating)
•MS (Standard Class seating)
•MSRMB (Standard Class seating with on-board shop)
•DMSL (driving vehicle with Standard Class seating and luggage area)
Class 221 (tilting) five car formation:
•DMF (driving vehicle with First Class seating)
•MS (Standard Class seating)
•MS (Standard Class seating)
•MSRMB (Standard Class seating with on-board shop)
•DMSL (driving vehicle with Standard Class seating and luggage area)
LIVERIES
Five liveries for both the Voyager Class 220 and the Class 221:
•CrossCountry (current)
•CrossCountry (transitional)
•Virgin Cross Country
•USA fictional
•German fictional
FEATURES
•Super Voyager 221 tilt operation - visible externally and from the cab, based on track curvature and speed
•Bump mapping - gives greater detail on the models
•Cab sway movement - see the movement as you start, stop, corner, accelerate and decelerate
•Windscreen Wipers clear rain from driver's front windows
•ActivClag – dynamic exhaust output. See the diesel smoke density vary under load and light grey oil smoke emitted from the exhaust on engine start
•Animated passenger doors complete with external door interlock light and opening/closing sounds with warning beeper
•Passenger windows rain effect - see the rain on the windows in Passenger view
•Detailed passenger cabin view - with Train Simulator 2012 lighting for that ‘being there’ feeling
•Acceleration and braking physics based on real timings
LIGHTING
•Working external and internal door interlock lights
•Working digital destination displays - in driver's windscreen and on the side of the passenger carriages. You can change the destination selection
•Realistic LED marker lights - with Train Simulator 2012 lighting effects
•Authentic headlight control - including flashing 'hazard' setting
•Cab Lighting effects - Train Simulator 2012 cab lighting effects
•Cab and gauge lighting - independently controlled main cab lighting and gauge illumination. There is even a separate controlled light to illuminate the driver notes clipboard!
•Working headlights which illuminate the track ahead
DETAILED CABS
•Highly detailed and authentic driver's cabs (different models for the 220 and 221 versions)
•Working driver's Master key - drag the key and place in the lock
•Train Management System (TMS) - partially simulated with boot-up sequence and anomaly warnings
•Working Driver Vigilance Device
•Tilt Isolate switch - oOperating in the Tilting Super Voyager 221. Activate it and you have no tilt
•Auto slow-speed function - train will drive forward automatically at 3MPH for use in train washes
•AWS self-test - move the reverser the first time and hear the AWS self-test warning
•DSD (Driver's Safety Device) - move the reverser for the first time and hear the DSD self-test sound. The DSD will subsequently sound if you move to forward or reverse after stopping in neutral. Hear the DSD warning as you drive if you have not altered the controls for a set period of time
•Working DRA (Driver's Reminder Appliance) - use the DRA to prevent the throttle from being applied at a station stop
•Switchable externally audible alarms - never miss an AWS caution or DSD reminder when driving from the external view; these sounds can be heard from outside the cab, and this feature can be disabled from the cab
•NRN Radio - with unique ActivScript coding that gives you a random selection of different voices each time. Press the blue call button on the NRN (National Rail Network) radio to run the test call sequence
•Variable speed windscreen wipers controllable by the Driver with intermittent, slow and fast settings
•Sun blind - lower and raise the driver's sun blind (it actually restricts the sun)
•Engine Start/Stop - start and stop the engine with the individual buttons
•Horn - use the two-tone horn via the Spacebar and B keys
•Guard to Driver signal - sounds after doors close
•Driver to Guard signal - operable
SOUNDS
Voyager Advanced features high quality sounds recorded from real Voyagers. There are separate sound sets for the driver's cab and the exterior view - you can hear the difference. In the driver's cab you can even hear the Air Conditioning start-up and run!
•ActivPax passenger cabin sounds - hear passenger noise and even mobile phones ringing!
•Rheostatic brake sounds on brake application
•Brake squeal sounds
•Track joint sounds
ACTIVWORLD SCENARIO SUPPORT
Both the 220 and 221 support the Just Trains ActivWorld scenarios that allow incidents and system failures such as passenger communication, fire alarm, engine failure on any of the units and brake failure.
Scenario-based 'cold and dark' start-up mode - turn on the battery isolating switch and watch the systems come to life as they would in the real Voyager!
ADVANCED SCENARIOS
Drive the Voyager 220 and Tilting Super Voyager 221 on 10 challenging and interesting scenarios that employ our exclusive ActivWorld scenario technology on both default and add-on routes.
Scenarios for default RailWorks 3 train Simulator 2012 routes
Oxford to Paddington route
New Kid on the Block
Today you are in control of a brand new Class 220 Voyager delivered earlier this morning. A depot instructor will lead you through the start-up procedure and the various new controls in this unit. We will then go out onto the main line to do some testing between here and Reading.
Caught in the Cold
This morning you are in charge of one of Arriva Cross Country's Class 220s on the first train of the day from Reading to Manchester. This service normally starts at Southampton but due to the snow it is starting here at Reading today. The train is 1M18 06:11 Reading-Manchester Piccadilly. It’s just coming up to 6 AM and we are running late so need to get the unit started and set up ASAP ready to head into Reading with the empty train. Once at Reading we will reverse and head for Oxford where a Manchester driver will take over. It's not all going to plan, however; the weather has caused problems for other services and many are running late so you can expect further delays en route to Oxford!
Cajon Pass route
Across the Pond
Drive a Voyager on a tourist trip over the Cajon Pass. The unit is only on here on hire to show what keeps Britain moving - but it has gained a special US livery!
Castle Rock Railroad route
Castle Rock Experience
Take the Voyager on an express service along the length of the Castle Rock Railroad - it's rather different to the usual train on this service!
Hagen-Siegen route
German Tourists
Take a party of German skiers on a hired Class 221 Voyager from Hagen to Siegen on a very wintry evening.
Seebergbahn route
On Test in Germany
On a stunning summer's morning you are assigned to your first day of training on board the British Class 220 Voyager unit.
Scenarios for add-on routes - all available from Just Trains
Totham route
Driver Training
It's September 2002 and you have just finished with Class 47s on XC services around Britain. Today is your first day back after a two-week break and it's all changed! Gone are the oily, unreliable 40-year-old Brush veterans and in their place brand new Bombardier Voyager units. Mark, your driver instructor, will take you through the start-up procedure before you head out onto the line for an introductory drive. We will also be testing a few of the fault systems today so keep on top of your game at all times!
Bristol to Exeter route
Summer Saturday Service
It's a summer Saturday and, as always, the holidaymakers are out in force for their annual holiday to Devon. These are the busiest days of the year here on the Bristol to Exeter line and today is no exception. You are in control of two five car Super Voyagers on a new service for the type. These units are currently replacing the Class 47s on the main services and will eventually see off the HSTs too! However, all is not well. One of our engines has failed and the guard in the second unit says that the temperatures on two of the other cars are not looking good. A Class 47 is also struggling on a southbound service and, to top it off, a Black Five is out on a rail tour to Plymouth! These days are sent to test us!
Easy Like a Sunday Morning
Today your job is easy (just like a Sunday morning, although it's Monday!). You need to get your Class 220 Voyager prepared for service at Barton Hill depot before working a stopping service down to Weston-Super-Mare and returning to Bristol Temple Meads. We are on hire to FGW today. The commuters are getting a change from their usual Class 150!
Newcastle to York Modern route
Rush hour express
Take charge of a XC Voyager on 1S49 11:25 Plymouth-Dundee on a glorious summer evening. You will be in charge from York to Newcastle. Enjoy the trip - you should have no problems today!
NINE MODELS
Class 220 (non-tilting) four-car formation:
•DMF (driving vehicle with First Class seating)
•MS (Standard Class seating)
•MSRMB (Standard Class seating with on-board shop)
•DMSL (driving vehicle with Standard Class seating and luggage area)
Class 221 (tilting) five car formation:
•DMF (driving vehicle with First Class seating)
•MS (Standard Class seating)
•MS (Standard Class seating)
•MSRMB (Standard Class seating with on-board shop)
•DMSL (driving vehicle with Standard Class seating and luggage area)
LIVERIES
Five liveries for both the Voyager Class 220 and the Class 221:
•CrossCountry (current)
•CrossCountry (transitional)
•Virgin Cross Country
•USA fictional
•German fictional
FEATURES
•Super Voyager 221 tilt operation - visible externally and from the cab, based on track curvature and speed
•Bump mapping - gives greater detail on the models
•Cab sway movement - see the movement as you start, stop, corner, accelerate and decelerate
•Windscreen Wipers clear rain from driver's front windows
•ActivClag – dynamic exhaust output. See the diesel smoke density vary under load and light grey oil smoke emitted from the exhaust on engine start
•Animated passenger doors complete with external door interlock light and opening/closing sounds with warning beeper
•Passenger windows rain effect - see the rain on the windows in Passenger view
•Detailed passenger cabin view - with Train Simulator 2012 lighting for that ‘being there’ feeling
•Acceleration and braking physics based on real timings
LIGHTING
•Working external and internal door interlock lights
•Working digital destination displays - in driver's windscreen and on the side of the passenger carriages. You can change the destination selection
•Realistic LED marker lights - with Train Simulator 2012 lighting effects
•Authentic headlight control - including flashing 'hazard' setting
•Cab Lighting effects - Train Simulator 2012 cab lighting effects
•Cab and gauge lighting - independently controlled main cab lighting and gauge illumination. There is even a separate controlled light to illuminate the driver notes clipboard!
•Working headlights which illuminate the track ahead
DETAILED CABS
•Highly detailed and authentic driver's cabs (different models for the 220 and 221 versions)
•Working driver's Master key - drag the key and place in the lock
•Train Management System (TMS) - partially simulated with boot-up sequence and anomaly warnings
•Working Driver Vigilance Device
•Tilt Isolate switch - oOperating in the Tilting Super Voyager 221. Activate it and you have no tilt
•Auto slow-speed function - train will drive forward automatically at 3MPH for use in train washes
•AWS self-test - move the reverser the first time and hear the AWS self-test warning
•DSD (Driver's Safety Device) - move the reverser for the first time and hear the DSD self-test sound. The DSD will subsequently sound if you move to forward or reverse after stopping in neutral. Hear the DSD warning as you drive if you have not altered the controls for a set period of time
•Working DRA (Driver's Reminder Appliance) - use the DRA to prevent the throttle from being applied at a station stop
•Switchable externally audible alarms - never miss an AWS caution or DSD reminder when driving from the external view; these sounds can be heard from outside the cab, and this feature can be disabled from the cab
•NRN Radio - with unique ActivScript coding that gives you a random selection of different voices each time. Press the blue call button on the NRN (National Rail Network) radio to run the test call sequence
•Variable speed windscreen wipers controllable by the Driver with intermittent, slow and fast settings
•Sun blind - lower and raise the driver's sun blind (it actually restricts the sun)
•Engine Start/Stop - start and stop the engine with the individual buttons
•Horn - use the two-tone horn via the Spacebar and B keys
•Guard to Driver signal - sounds after doors close
•Driver to Guard signal - operable
SOUNDS
Voyager Advanced features high quality sounds recorded from real Voyagers. There are separate sound sets for the driver's cab and the exterior view - you can hear the difference. In the driver's cab you can even hear the Air Conditioning start-up and run!
•ActivPax passenger cabin sounds - hear passenger noise and even mobile phones ringing!
•Rheostatic brake sounds on brake application
•Brake squeal sounds
•Track joint sounds
ACTIVWORLD SCENARIO SUPPORT
Both the 220 and 221 support the Just Trains ActivWorld scenarios that allow incidents and system failures such as passenger communication, fire alarm, engine failure on any of the units and brake failure.
Scenario-based 'cold and dark' start-up mode - turn on the battery isolating switch and watch the systems come to life as they would in the real Voyager!
ADVANCED SCENARIOS
Drive the Voyager 220 and Tilting Super Voyager 221 on 10 challenging and interesting scenarios that employ our exclusive ActivWorld scenario technology on both default and add-on routes.
Scenarios for default RailWorks 3 train Simulator 2012 routes
Oxford to Paddington route
New Kid on the Block
Today you are in control of a brand new Class 220 Voyager delivered earlier this morning. A depot instructor will lead you through the start-up procedure and the various new controls in this unit. We will then go out onto the main line to do some testing between here and Reading.
Caught in the Cold
This morning you are in charge of one of Arriva Cross Country's Class 220s on the first train of the day from Reading to Manchester. This service normally starts at Southampton but due to the snow it is starting here at Reading today. The train is 1M18 06:11 Reading-Manchester Piccadilly. It’s just coming up to 6 AM and we are running late so need to get the unit started and set up ASAP ready to head into Reading with the empty train. Once at Reading we will reverse and head for Oxford where a Manchester driver will take over. It's not all going to plan, however; the weather has caused problems for other services and many are running late so you can expect further delays en route to Oxford!
Cajon Pass route
Across the Pond
Drive a Voyager on a tourist trip over the Cajon Pass. The unit is only on here on hire to show what keeps Britain moving - but it has gained a special US livery!
Castle Rock Railroad route
Castle Rock Experience
Take the Voyager on an express service along the length of the Castle Rock Railroad - it's rather different to the usual train on this service!
Hagen-Siegen route
German Tourists
Take a party of German skiers on a hired Class 221 Voyager from Hagen to Siegen on a very wintry evening.
Seebergbahn route
On Test in Germany
On a stunning summer's morning you are assigned to your first day of training on board the British Class 220 Voyager unit.
Scenarios for add-on routes - all available from Just Trains
Totham route
Driver Training
It's September 2002 and you have just finished with Class 47s on XC services around Britain. Today is your first day back after a two-week break and it's all changed! Gone are the oily, unreliable 40-year-old Brush veterans and in their place brand new Bombardier Voyager units. Mark, your driver instructor, will take you through the start-up procedure before you head out onto the line for an introductory drive. We will also be testing a few of the fault systems today so keep on top of your game at all times!
Bristol to Exeter route
Summer Saturday Service
It's a summer Saturday and, as always, the holidaymakers are out in force for their annual holiday to Devon. These are the busiest days of the year here on the Bristol to Exeter line and today is no exception. You are in control of two five car Super Voyagers on a new service for the type. These units are currently replacing the Class 47s on the main services and will eventually see off the HSTs too! However, all is not well. One of our engines has failed and the guard in the second unit says that the temperatures on two of the other cars are not looking good. A Class 47 is also struggling on a southbound service and, to top it off, a Black Five is out on a rail tour to Plymouth! These days are sent to test us!
Easy Like a Sunday Morning
Today your job is easy (just like a Sunday morning, although it's Monday!). You need to get your Class 220 Voyager prepared for service at Barton Hill depot before working a stopping service down to Weston-Super-Mare and returning to Bristol Temple Meads. We are on hire to FGW today. The commuters are getting a change from their usual Class 150!
Newcastle to York Modern route
Rush hour express
Take charge of a XC Voyager on 1S49 11:25 Plymouth-Dundee on a glorious summer evening. You will be in charge from York to Newcastle. Enjoy the trip - you should have no problems today!
Re: Voyager Advanced
How did you get the figure of £3.30?Inthernet wrote:!
Edit: I just saw that the 'real' amount existing owners will be paying is £3.30. I think that is very reasonable considering how extensive the upgrades are. We've had a long time to enjoy the old Voyager. Minor gripe is - I feel sorry for people who only bought it, say last night to find this out!
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Re: Voyager Advanced
I think £15.30 (cost of existing Voyager) + £7.99 (cost of upgrade) - £19.99 (cost of buying Advanced version new) = ~£3.30Varney wrote:How did you get the figure of £3.30?Inthernet wrote:!
Edit: I just saw that the 'real' amount existing owners will be paying is £3.30. I think that is very reasonable considering how extensive the upgrades are. We've had a long time to enjoy the old Voyager. Minor gripe is - I feel sorry for people who only bought it, say last night to find this out!
Re: Voyager Advanced
Ahh, right...hadn't thought of it like that.FoggyMorning wrote:I think £15.30 (cost of existing Voyager) + £7.99 (cost of upgrade) - £19.99 (cost of buying Advanced version new) = ~£3.30Varney wrote:How did you get the figure of £3.30?Inthernet wrote:!
Edit: I just saw that the 'real' amount existing owners will be paying is £3.30. I think that is very reasonable considering how extensive the upgrades are. We've had a long time to enjoy the old Voyager. Minor gripe is - I feel sorry for people who only bought it, say last night to find this out!
I guess in that way you could say it would actually be £1.50 because you would receive 180 points when purchasing the existing Voyager which you could use on the upgrade.
Re: Voyager Advanced
Ok. I have a few good points I wish to raise regarding my version of this product.
1) I purchased the download 'railsimulator' version from Just Trains, will the Upgrade discount still apply if I want to purchase the boxed version this time?
2) Will this train install over the same files as the 'railsimulator' version?
3) Will 3rd party scenarios previously designed for the 'railsimulator' version work after I purchase the TS2012 upgrade version? (as there are quite a few existing voyager scenarios in the uktrainsim library).
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1) I purchased the download 'railsimulator' version from Just Trains, will the Upgrade discount still apply if I want to purchase the boxed version this time?
2) Will this train install over the same files as the 'railsimulator' version?
3) Will 3rd party scenarios previously designed for the 'railsimulator' version work after I purchase the TS2012 upgrade version? (as there are quite a few existing voyager scenarios in the uktrainsim library).
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Re: Voyager Advanced
Personally I'd hope it installs over the old version, so that existing scenarios automatically take advantage of the upgraded version without needing to be edited.andynwt wrote:Quite, it's like a brand new train but no doubt we'll see some negativity. I wonder if it'll install to a new folder?
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Re: Voyager Advanced
1) Yes!firetrap1 wrote:Ok. I have a few good points I wish to raise regarding my version of this product.
1) I purchased the download 'railsimulator' version from Just Trains, will the Upgrade discount still apply if I want to purchase the boxed version this time?
2) Will this train install over the same files as the 'railsimulator' version?
3) Will 3rd party scenarios previously designed for the 'railsimulator' version work after I purchase the TS2012 upgrade version? (as there are quite a few existing voyager scenarios in the uktrainsim library).
Regards
Chris
2) I'm not too sure, best to email Just Trains. I do think however that they will but current scenarios will not be broken by this upgrade except for the Class 221 you will get the following (recieved from Just Trains) 'with the 221 you will get a consist of A - B - B - D - F rather than A - B - C - D - F.'
3) As I mentioned above, yes they will.
Hope this helps...
Re: Voyager Advanced
Cool, had 200 points in the bank, so £5.99 to upgrade to this lot seems like good value to me. Roll on the 31st!
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Re: Voyager Advanced
To muddy the waters even further, I'm assuming we get loyalty points for the £7.99 upgrade pack.Varney wrote:I guess in that way you could say it would actually be £1.50 because you would receive 180 points when purchasing the existing Voyager which you could use on the upgrade.
