New Class 40 Sound Pack by AP

[TheTazman]

Lovely new engine sounds for the DT and / or JT Class 40.

http://armstrongpowerhouse.com/product_ ... cts_id=105

I just wondering at this time where do the coach sounds come from? They are excellent.

[bdy26]

From the video? They're the AP mk1/2 sound pack. Very good they are too.

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[TheTazman]

I pretty certain i have that ... they never sounded that good tho.... confused.org.net.com.uk hmmmm.

From the video? They're the AP mk1/2 sound pack. Very good they are too.

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[bdy26]

There was a older mk1 pack, if that's feeding confusion. Check it's not been overwritten.

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[TheTazman]

Ahhh ok. Gotcha. There were the MK3 and some other rolling stock sounds too. Alllllll a bit confusing hahha.

There was a older mk1 pack, if that's feeding confusion. Check it's not been overwritten.

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[SquidvT]

Looks (Sounds?) amazing the only thing holding me back is the DT/JT Class 40, what with is not being 2012 optimised.

Re the Mk1/Mk2 soundpacks, if you only ever get one AP sound pack, get that one. It adds so much to the proceedings.

[smarty2]

yes it does sound nice, but I just spent me pocket money on pre- ordering the voyager!

[jimmyshand]

If there was one phrase to sum up Richards products it would have to be "continuous improvement". I don't know how he does it but each pack that comes out is that little bit better than those that went before. The sounds on this thing are out of this world! The best full bore thrash yet produced in the history of train simulation on this one, I kid you not! The horn is also somehow that bit louder, more rasping and ear piercing than all others too. I've never been much of a fan of the DT class 40 and only ever used it once or twice but with these sounds, it's going to get some serious use now! This is like having a whole new loco

[faedundee2]

He chose a superb loco to take sounds from which makes the realism even better, I bet the CFPS will be glad of the money Richard spent to get the sounds after all they have to spend hundreds of thousands paying back people for the repairs done to D335 and the on going repairs to 40145...

[JasonM]

I'm another one who has not used DT's Class 40 much but after getting Richards class 40 pro sound pack have now started using it again, the sounds are excellent and really bring it to life so much so that I can almost smell the loco.
Well done Richard.

[andyw823]

Can anyone tell if they can hear the jointed track sounds inside the cab? I can hear hem outside but not inside.

[jimmyshand]

Can confirm I can't hear jointed rail sounds inside the cab either, only outside. Same goes for other soundpacks. Shame really because jointed rail sounds can definitely be heard in the cab of a loco just as you can hear them in a passenger coach. On all locos there's a bloomin great big set of metal wheels just a few feet under the drivers backside! For me the lack of rail joint sounds in the cab are the only negative in otherwise perfect soundpacks from Richard.

[phat2003uk]

The joint sounds are actually set to the play as seen in the trailer but it seems they're one of the first causalities when it comes to Train Simulator 2012's audio resources issues. Hopefully this will be improved in Train Simulator 2013.

[msmith4000]

The old packs were great and I am loving the new packs BUT I am having some problems with sounds cutting out as per the resource issue and also sound levels of some samples dropping to very faint levels . Especially so in scenarios with quite a lot of AI running which I commonly run also most which has AP sound packs applied as well. Having both out of cab and in cab sound sets probably requires double the resources?

With this pack and the Class 37 pro pack if I put my head out if the cab fairly often when I return back to the cab some of the volume levels have screwed up a bit and also at times goes echo effect (doppler effect?). Mostly it is the bogie running noises that are drowning out the sound of the engine noises and also joint sounds. Cab controls are usually OK and in line with running noises and can be heard clearly as can the field diverts. It may be the case that the jointed track noises are still there if you listen very carefully as I thought they had been muted due to resource issues, however, sometimes listening very carefully you can just make them out. Out of cab sounds are always perfect and I have had no problems, only the cab sounds seem to be effected.

When I compare the in-cab engine noises with the YouTube clip they seem to be a clearer / louder in the video. I'm sure its all to do with the way railworks poorly handles resources. My motherboards integrated Realtek ALC892 audio controller may also cause some problems. I'm considering buying a discrete sound card to see if it improves matters.

I am going to run the loco's on an empty Test Track scenario to see if it makes a difference. I'll also take a few videos and post them on You Tube and will pop an email along to APH support with links to them so Richard can check it out for himself.

I bought the Class 40 Pro pack last night and the scenario I was running I could barely hear the engine or turbocharger even at high throttle levels over the bogie running sounds. I'm hoping that this is a resource /Railworks sound issue and not by design. The fact that the engine sounds louder and clearer in the video also support this. But if it is not, whilst I appreciate that Richard is trying to produce realistic as possible sound levels, the customer who is buying these packs want and must to be able to hear them all! Yesterday the bogie running noises were just too loud compared to the other sounds and as I said I could barely hear the lovely 16SVT sing its song whilst in the cab.

Other problems are being deafened by passing HST's with AP sounds applied and also when passing over bridges the change in bogie running noises are disproportionately louder than the normal running noise. The cumulative effect is that these toned down in-cab noises are now out of kilter with the sound levels in the rest of the simulator and are drowned out so I can hardly hear them at times. Once Pro packs are rolled out to all stock this may change as everything is sounds fine when a Class 37 passes me LE.

What I have said above makes me sound a little critical which I hoped not to be as I love Richards work and don't like to criticise any aspect of the packs and will keep buying the Pro packs to support him even if I decide to revert back to older packs. But the fact remains I am experiencing some problems with the Pro packs and I do think the in cab volume levels are a bit too low.

I will conduct my Test track testing tonight to see if resource issues are indeed at play and the RW sound system is being brought down to its knees under the weight of multiple AP sound packs being installed and running in the same scenario.

The out of cab sounds in these Pro packs are quite simply spot on, the in cab sounds are great but the sound levels may need tweaking or simply the whole in cab soundset bumped up a volume level notch or 2. I have my volume at maxed out through the headphones but its still not loud enough for me (and why I get deafened by passing AI) the sounds are too quiet any less than max volume. Whilst I appreciate doing so would lose some authenticity and might not be quite the same as the real thing, some compromise may have to be made to make these packs viable for me. If I and I suspect probably most others who purchase these packs were ever to drive these loco's in real life we would certainly have the cab door wedged open! Hopefully Richard will consider bumping up all the in cab volume levels in his Pro packs at the expense of a little realism so we may hear clearly the all the English Electric loveliness in all its glory.

[msmith4000]

OK tested a single class 40 on the test track and everything sounds OK so a resource issue must be causing my volume problems. Will take a recording and hopefully AP can investigate.