I have made a small scenario just to test my route in which I have 1 small passenger train stopping at a station only to find the doors do not open on the train, I have passengers walking about the station and the marker is almost the full lenght of the station.
I have tried different types of platforms and get the same results, is there any button or switch that needs to be set to make the doors open. thanks
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Re: Station passengers
Hi tippertool and welcome to the Forum,
Have you tried pressing the "T" key?
Have you tried pressing the "T" key?
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Re: Station passengers
Yes have tried that and nothing happens, have tried different platforms invisible one's and normal with the same result.
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Hi Tippertool
Has the platform being placed in one complete section? Did you use the offset tool to place the platform? if so, check to see if you have any red triangles above the track between the start and end of the platform. You will find that, if the platform is laid in several sections then some or none of the doors will open.
When I create my station, I ensure that I have laid one complete section of track covering the entire length of the platform. Then use the offset tool to place the platform ( I set the distance to 4.2, this will be close to where you need it). I normally run a piece of track to about 250 meters which will accommodate a 8 carriage train. So when laying the track, make sure you have covered more than 250 meters so that your platform will be in one section. If laying two tracks, lay them together so that it makes it easier to lay platforms on both sides of the tracks.
Before you alter anything, check those red triangles on the track/s first. If you have, you maybe better off relaying the track/s first and then replace the platform/s. in one section.
Hope this helps
Mark.
Has the platform being placed in one complete section? Did you use the offset tool to place the platform? if so, check to see if you have any red triangles above the track between the start and end of the platform. You will find that, if the platform is laid in several sections then some or none of the doors will open.
When I create my station, I ensure that I have laid one complete section of track covering the entire length of the platform. Then use the offset tool to place the platform ( I set the distance to 4.2, this will be close to where you need it). I normally run a piece of track to about 250 meters which will accommodate a 8 carriage train. So when laying the track, make sure you have covered more than 250 meters so that your platform will be in one section. If laying two tracks, lay them together so that it makes it easier to lay platforms on both sides of the tracks.
Before you alter anything, check those red triangles on the track/s first. If you have, you maybe better off relaying the track/s first and then replace the platform/s. in one section.
Hope this helps
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Re: Station passengers
Hi Mark
Well had a look at my platform and found that the red triangle was within the platform area so changed this with a new piece of track and replaced the marker.
Well the same thing happens my train pulls into station and nothing happens train doors still stay shut, so thought there was something wrong with my route so I made a quick route with track, station and tried again with the same result.
I am not having much luck with this so could there be something else that I am not doing right, I have looked at all the tutorials on this subject to see how or what I am doing wrong but cannot see anything so its help please
Well had a look at my platform and found that the red triangle was within the platform area so changed this with a new piece of track and replaced the marker.
Well the same thing happens my train pulls into station and nothing happens train doors still stay shut, so thought there was something wrong with my route so I made a quick route with track, station and tried again with the same result.
I am not having much luck with this so could there be something else that I am not doing right, I have looked at all the tutorials on this subject to see how or what I am doing wrong but cannot see anything so its help please
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Re: Station passengers
Are you using a single or double sided platform? If single sided the doors will only open if the side which has the edging slabs is next to the track
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Re: Station passengers
Hi there
am using single platforms with edging beside the track
am using single platforms with edging beside the track
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Re: Station passengers
I have just made yet another quick route put this time using amercian track, platforms amd loco's and low and behold the train stops at the station and the carriage doors open so why will it not work on my route.
Re: Station passengers
Hi Tipperool
On your previous reply, you said that you had replaced the track with one complete length and replaced the platform marker but did you replace the platform?. The issue is not the track being in several sections but the platform itself. If you are using the offset tool to lay your platforms say on a section of track with two joins between the start and end of the platform then you will get three sections of platform when laid. The purpose of the one section of track is that it will lay one section of platform. Changing the track and marker but leaving the platform as it is will give still give you three sections in your platform and this will stop some or all the doors from opening.
Could you let us know if you have one complete section of platform. If so, then I am puzzled as to why you are having this problem.
Mark.
On your previous reply, you said that you had replaced the track with one complete length and replaced the platform marker but did you replace the platform?. The issue is not the track being in several sections but the platform itself. If you are using the offset tool to lay your platforms say on a section of track with two joins between the start and end of the platform then you will get three sections of platform when laid. The purpose of the one section of track is that it will lay one section of platform. Changing the track and marker but leaving the platform as it is will give still give you three sections in your platform and this will stop some or all the doors from opening.
Could you let us know if you have one complete section of platform. If so, then I am puzzled as to why you are having this problem.
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Hi Mark,
I have often wondered about this. I have a platform at Leeds station and the track has a crossover mid platform so there is no way to avoid a red triangle as points always have a red triangle. I can of course lay a platform still without a red triangle. At the moment what happens is that on rare occasions you can not get the doors to open (but this is rare).
However, without fail doors only open on the first part of the train if the train is across the track crossover. I am pretty sure the platform is in one section (even though the track is not).
Are you saying that as long as the platform is in a single section it should work fine? If so I will relay the platform and try again to be sure.
Thanks
JIm
I have often wondered about this. I have a platform at Leeds station and the track has a crossover mid platform so there is no way to avoid a red triangle as points always have a red triangle. I can of course lay a platform still without a red triangle. At the moment what happens is that on rare occasions you can not get the doors to open (but this is rare).
However, without fail doors only open on the first part of the train if the train is across the track crossover. I am pretty sure the platform is in one section (even though the track is not).
Are you saying that as long as the platform is in a single section it should work fine? If so I will relay the platform and try again to be sure.
Thanks
JIm
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Re: Station passengers
Hi Mark
Yes have done everything thing you said like one piece of track used the off set tool for the platform and its still the same, something else that I have noticed is that the are no passengers walking about the platforms.
I have just made yet another quick route using one lenght of track, used the off set tool for the platform this time there are passengers walking about and then sent a small two carriage train to the station and bingo the doors open.
What has gone wrong with my main route is very puzzling and annoying as I had spent a longtime building it but as it was my first attempt at route building I can always start over again.
This route building is a lot more difficult than I thought it would be, there is just so many things to learn but hopefully I shall win.
Thanks Mark for your help and tips
Yes have done everything thing you said like one piece of track used the off set tool for the platform and its still the same, something else that I have noticed is that the are no passengers walking about the platforms.
I have just made yet another quick route using one lenght of track, used the off set tool for the platform this time there are passengers walking about and then sent a small two carriage train to the station and bingo the doors open.
What has gone wrong with my main route is very puzzling and annoying as I had spent a longtime building it but as it was my first attempt at route building I can always start over again.
This route building is a lot more difficult than I thought it would be, there is just so many things to learn but hopefully I shall win.
Thanks Mark for your help and tips
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Hi Jim and Tippertool
My apologies for the delay in getting back to you yesterday. I was in hospital having knee surgery yesterday and only got back on the Pc this morning.
Firstly, if you have no passengers walking the platform then you need to place an invisible platform over the original. You will then notice yellow dots and arrows above the platform. Some platforms that are part of a station creation are models and require the invisible platform to be placed. This is done in the same way as you would lay the original platform using the off set tool, then just position directly over the top and slightly below the surface so black squares are below the surface.
A little tip when altering the height's of the platforms on both sides of the track is by selecting the first, then press ctrl key and select the other platform and you can adjust both at the same time and to the same exact height. This saves you re adjusting to get both even. (You may have already discovered this)
As you say Jim, sometimes there are situations where you can not avoid a red triangle (Track Join) midway between the start and end of the platform. I experimented with this by placing the platform between the start location and up to the track join, then extend the platform from the join to the platform end. You still get two or more sections of platform but I found that the doors would open on the first part and not on the second section?!! Other forum members have had no problems with this?!
In summary, when you place any of your platforms, try to achieve this in complete section where possible. With this and checking that you have yellow dots and arrows, you should have no problems. When I occurred this problem with doors not opening, I had created quite a few stations along my route and had to replace the tracks and platforms on all of these stations (Very frustrating) but I have no problems with any of the platforms now. Don't be to hasty Tippertool in deleting everything or restarting your route from new. Just try using a different platform and relay the track into one length.
Could you let me know how you get on mate. I would like to see you overcome this little problem and get those doors and passengers going full speed.
Take care Guys and have a great day
Mark.
My apologies for the delay in getting back to you yesterday. I was in hospital having knee surgery yesterday and only got back on the Pc this morning.
Firstly, if you have no passengers walking the platform then you need to place an invisible platform over the original. You will then notice yellow dots and arrows above the platform. Some platforms that are part of a station creation are models and require the invisible platform to be placed. This is done in the same way as you would lay the original platform using the off set tool, then just position directly over the top and slightly below the surface so black squares are below the surface.
A little tip when altering the height's of the platforms on both sides of the track is by selecting the first, then press ctrl key and select the other platform and you can adjust both at the same time and to the same exact height. This saves you re adjusting to get both even. (You may have already discovered this)
As you say Jim, sometimes there are situations where you can not avoid a red triangle (Track Join) midway between the start and end of the platform. I experimented with this by placing the platform between the start location and up to the track join, then extend the platform from the join to the platform end. You still get two or more sections of platform but I found that the doors would open on the first part and not on the second section?!! Other forum members have had no problems with this?!
In summary, when you place any of your platforms, try to achieve this in complete section where possible. With this and checking that you have yellow dots and arrows, you should have no problems. When I occurred this problem with doors not opening, I had created quite a few stations along my route and had to replace the tracks and platforms on all of these stations (Very frustrating) but I have no problems with any of the platforms now. Don't be to hasty Tippertool in deleting everything or restarting your route from new. Just try using a different platform and relay the track into one length.
Could you let me know how you get on mate. I would like to see you overcome this little problem and get those doors and passengers going full speed.
Take care Guys and have a great day
Mark.
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Re: Station passengers
Hi Mark
thanks once again for your help, so back to my route I went and tried different platforms track trains just about everything and still get the same results.
There has got to be something that I have downloaded that is causing this problem.
One thing that might be causing my problems is that I enable all Object set filter items so I was wondering if maybe something within that filter could be the problem. There are items from the Edinburgh Glasgow route which I cannot use as there are some building which will not delete once you have placed them.
Anyway I have started a new route and so far have got a 4 platform station and some track laid and 2 trains to test it and everything works ok with doors opening so for the time being I shall be building this route.
So thanks for your help just sorry we couldn't get it sorted.
thanks once again for your help, so back to my route I went and tried different platforms track trains just about everything and still get the same results.
There has got to be something that I have downloaded that is causing this problem.
One thing that might be causing my problems is that I enable all Object set filter items so I was wondering if maybe something within that filter could be the problem. There are items from the Edinburgh Glasgow route which I cannot use as there are some building which will not delete once you have placed them.
Anyway I have started a new route and so far have got a 4 platform station and some track laid and 2 trains to test it and everything works ok with doors opening so for the time being I shall be building this route.
So thanks for your help just sorry we couldn't get it sorted.