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Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks

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It's not really an Nvidia versus ATI thing - more to do with memory bandwidth on the card. A 5750 with 75GB/s does predictably better than an 8800GT with 50GB/s at the same settings.

Traditionally ATI has optimised to reduce the memory bandwidth their cards need on typical games, and then sold mid-range cards with less bandwidth and more shaders than the norm. However it seems that Railworks *really* needs that bandwidth for some of the new stuff.

Meanwhile the high-end cards on both sides have loads of bandwidth and so both work well.
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Kromaatikse wrote:It's not really an Nvidia versus ATI thing - more to do with memory bandwidth on the card. A 5750 with 75GB/s does predictably better than an 8800GT with 50GB/s at the same settings.

Traditionally ATI has optimised to reduce the memory bandwidth their cards need on typical games, and then sold mid-range cards with less bandwidth and more shaders than the norm. However it seems that Railworks *really* needs that bandwidth for some of the new stuff.

Meanwhile the high-end cards on both sides have loads of bandwidth and so both work well.
So what do you see as needed bandwidth Kromaatikse?
Suppose I want to invest, then I am not interested in the minimum needed :wink:
I'll go for the best.
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You might be interested in my latest FAQ. I've put in a very rough calculation there.

The next post in that series will talk about upgrades for people on a tight budget. After that, I'll move on to a somewhat less tight budget, and then give some overall recommendations for people with plenty of disposable income.
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Kromaatikse wrote:You might be interested in my latest FAQ. I've put in a very rough calculation there.

The next post in that series will talk about upgrades for people on a tight budget. After that, I'll move on to a somewhat less tight budget, and then give some overall recommendations for people with plenty of disposable income.
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Well, I trawled my local retailer's website (they're big enough to be representative) and came up with some good upgrade options within a €300 budget - and some for noticeably less than that.

Next I think I'll try for a €500 budget.
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Thank you for the time and effort you are putting in on this Kromaatikse.
For disclosure, I am affiliated with a third party developer however, I do not know anything about any future releases unless I'm working on them and even then, I'd be breaking years worth of built up trust to say anything about it ;-)
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Evening all, sorry to intrude but as we have been grateful for some of the information kindly collated by UKTS users following the launch of TS2012, it seems only polite to post a link to our graphics settings video here in case it may be of benefit to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njr1bSFWoMw

I may add this to one or two other threads here - mods, if this is unacceptable please edit/remove as required.

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The suggestions for €500 budget upgrades are up.

As it turns out, you can build a complete €800 or €1000 full system upgrade by combining the CPU and GPU sections there, since there aren't really any further useful upgrades beyond that point on the market at the moment.

Yet, at the same time, there aren't any worthwhile laptops within a €500 budget as far as I can tell. Plenty of laptops can run Railworks with TSX off, of course, but it takes one specifically designed for gaming to run it properly.
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Kromaatikse wrote:The suggestions for €500 budget upgrades are up.

As it turns out, you can build a complete €800 or €1000 full system upgrade by combining the CPU and GPU sections there, since there aren't really any further useful upgrades beyond that point on the market at the moment.

Yet, at the same time, there aren't any worthwhile laptops within a €500 budget as far as I can tell. Plenty of laptops can run Railworks with TSX off, of course, but it takes one specifically designed for gaming to run it properly.
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New update released by Steam tonight.
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rabid wrote:Hope this helps higher-end PC users find their sweet spot. :)

David
Hello :wink: !

I have appreciate your good guideline report !

For me this settings are improved the visual in game ! Notabily the anisotropic 16 x and texture filtering negative LOD BIAS at Clamp !

Primary I had used the basic Nvidia control panel for this, but without effect in game !

Secondary I use the the good Nvidia Inspector as you and this make a good result in game without a down off FPS !

My rig is similar as your : i7 965 @ stock @ 3.2 Ghz with turbo mode @ 3.4 Ghz - GTX 580 @ 1.5 Go - 12 Go DDR3 Ram Tri CH Corsair PC 12800 @ 1600 Mhz - HDD WD Véloci. 10000 Rpm - OS W7 Pro 64 Bit

Thank you VR that helped me !

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rabid wrote: Hope this helps higher-end PC users find their sweet spot. :)
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I found it most informative, thanks a lot.

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Re: Settings for upgraded Railworks

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If anyone needs detailed information on there processor, memory and motherboard including model numbers and what not, there is a program called CPU-Z which when installed allows you to, it is however for advanced users in the sense it gives you all the details for voltage and frenquencies but maybe also useful if you cannot find a manual for your motherboard, to note also the motherboard section of the program can even tell you what your BIOS version is at.

Can get it from here and its free:

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

Example image of what info it gives of my own processor:

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crumplezone wrote:If anyone needs detailed information on there processor, memory and motherboard including model numbers and what not, there is a program called CPU-Z which when installed allows you to, it is however for advanced users in the sense it gives you all the details for voltage and frenquencies but maybe also useful if you cannot find a manual for your motherboard, to note also the motherboard section of the program can even tell you what your BIOS version is at.

Can get it from here and its free:

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

Example image of what info it gives of my own processor:

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I can not read SPD in CPU-Z.....
** One of my memory is broken; Have now 10 > should be 12 gig.
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