Warrington Railways Decision Time

JohnEyres · Post by **JohnEyres** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 2:25 pm

I am at the stage with Warrington Railways where I'm about to make it into a much bigger route. But I can't really decide what to do and where to go to.
There are a few options. Option 1 would mean a second version of the route would be available in late spring or summer. Option 2 would mean doing a bit more work and leaving the finish date until summer and beyond.

Option 1:

I continue the WCML a little south from Weaver Jnc where I'm at now to Hartford and Acton Bridge. Then built the Liverpool mainline to Allerton and built the depot and Cheshire lines route towards Mancheser as far as Warrington Central.
Continue the WCML north to Preston and leave it there for future releases. This option would mean the low level line would go right through to Ditton and the Helsby line would join the Liverpool ml by Halton Jnc (These parts have already been started). The Folly lane branch to ICI Runcorn would be built too. But it would still leave quite a few bare ends like at Ince Moss, Wigan Wallgate and Allerton.

Option 2

Do all the above plus take the Liverpool Main line towards Edge Hill and possibly Lime St. Create the L&M Liverpool-Manchester line so it joins up at the already present St Helens Jnc. Take the Huyton-Wigan line through St Helens Central (this would join at Ince Moss) and built Sutton Oak branch. Also build the Rainford branch so you can actually go somewhere from Wallgate. And the most final one is take the Helsby line to Chester and built Stanlow Refinery and Ellesmere Port.

I am the fastest route builder and most of this is just pie in the sky at the moment. Does anyone suggest I extend elsewhere or are you happy which what I have in mind?

You can keep up to date with the current extention here http://johneyres.tripod.com/newms.htm which at this moment is around Ditton & Runcorn as this part has been confirmied.

phat2003uk · Post by **phat2003uk** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 3:37 pm

option 1 sounds good!
I'm looking forward to hartford as I've just been there.
Is this goign to be say 65% realistic or not ?

Thanks

Looking forward to route loads!!!

Grudz · Post by **Grudz** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 3:43 pm

Optiion 1. But take the Cheshire Line out to Birchwood(my home station)its about 5 miles straight track after padgate up to flixton/urmston(ish) . and/or extend the WCML to Crewe.

Also I'm thinking about modeling Birchwood station, but i dont know where to start with it. I might go tomorrow and take some pictures and have a chat with the ticket bloke there. Does anyone know where to get structure info/diagrams, am I able to get them from town hall or something or would i have to write to the rail companys.

Hymek · Post by **Hymek** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 4:28 pm

i Would Say option 2, but then im greedy.

markw · Post by **markw** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 6:40 pm

I think Option 1, with the WCML taken down to Crewe, even if the latter was simplified somewhat as a temporary teminus. It would allow some interesting journey options, particularly Crewe-Preston and Crewe-Liverpool.

Just a thought.

markw · Post by **markw** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 6:42 pm

Sorry - meant Option 2 plus Crewe.

Better to wait and have something to match the quality of the current package with good oportunities for activities.

jp4712 · Post by **jp4712** » Fri Jan 17, 2003 7:31 pm

John,

Mark is right. The attractiveness of Warrington Railways (other than that I used to live less than 200 yards as the crow flies from Newton le Willows station!) is the number of possibilities for interesting journeys. It's very tempting to go short but the number of activities that have sprung up for the route already would suggest that Warrington rlys has the potential to do for the west coast what Tim Court's work has done for the east coast.

Well done! Be not downcast! Be ambitious! Go to Liverpool, Manchester and Chester! And, er, thanks for a really good route.

megatron · Post by **megatron** » Sat Jan 18, 2003 3:29 am

Go to Preston, Go to Preston, Go to Preston

Oh and make a slight 40mile detore through Euxton junction to Piccadily please John

Oh that would mean it would have to go through Chorley!
What a pity!!!heheh!

John i think its best to do exactly what you want to do, at the end of the day people will love whatever you bring out! Whether its to Liverpool, Manchester, Crewe or Preston, people will download it and drive it. If its what you want then the chances are itll be of a better quality and you're less likely to get fed up

personally i dont mind waiting if it means the route is bigger and better

Good luck with it

Cheers
Guy

ejr1965 · Post by **ejr1965** » Sat Jan 18, 2003 5:37 am

John, can you help me please?
I have just downloaded the Bumper Pack and have extracted all the required rolling stock but when I try to run any of the activities, I keep getting a message
" Failed to open texture file - roue\wcml\textures\acleantrack1.ace"

Any clues what's going wrong?

Thanks

EdR

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