Ffestiniog Bug Boxes

[Nvincer]

Created using drawings and photographs, I present bug boxes 3 + 4 in 'Colonel Stephens' Livery.

The carriages come with full MSTSBin working doors and the textures are all OpenRails ready.

I was originally building these with the idea of converting them to 3DC and then onto Railworks, but I'm not sure how easy this would be? Any ideas?







Ben

[CaptainBazza]

To this Kiwi's 3ft 6in gauge eye, the old FR stock looks like cupboards on wheels, and really charming characters.

Cheers Bazza

[MuzTrem]

Very nice! Dare I ask if we will see them in Victorian livery too?

Will they be operable without MSTS Bin? Call me a luddite but I don't use it, I find it makes the Sim run too slowly on my computer.

[Nvincer]

Murray,

We might see them in Victorian livery. Unfortunately I didn't texture them amazingly well so it would be a complete re-texture, but we'll see. I have other coaches in the pipeline at the moment as well.

And yes, they do work without MSTSBin.

Cheers,

Ben

[Nvincer]

Coach 22 rolled out of the works today, with some final little bits to do before it enters service.



Again, all 3D construction, no clever texturing here. All doors work, on both sides.

A question to Kevin Martin if he's reading - I've built this stock with the idea of it running with your great already available stock, but these seems to be a lot bigger in scale? Did you scale it differently to fit with route? Or am I missing the blindingly obvious?

Cheers,

Ben

[Rfairlie]

To this Kiwi's 3ft 6in gauge eye, the old FR stock looks like cupboards on wheels, and really charming characters.

Cheers Bazza

At the time there was no blueprint to follow, the Liverpool and Manchester had only been open 30 years when the bug boxes were built. Stephenson believed a 2ft gauge railway with steam locos pulling passenger trains was impossible. If you think those coaches look like cupboards feast your eyes on the quarrymens coaches. http://www.festipedia.org.uk/wiki/Quarr ... _Carriages

Tim

[Nvincer]

An early sneaky peak of the next carriage to roll out onto the FR.

Ben

[Nvincer]

Virtually ('scuse the pun!) finished. Coach 116.

Ben

[MuzTrem]

More great work Ben Will be nice to have more variety of modern FfR stock to choose from.

As far as scale goes they do look perhaps a little too tall to me, but these images can play tricks and it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong on this count...

[Nvincer]

Thanks Murray.

As far as scale goes they do look perhaps a little too tall to me, but these images can play tricks and it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong on this count...

They've actually been scaled down to match Kevin's stock, coaches of this type are all (heightwise) pretty much a muchness. See picture - http://www.festipedia.org.uk/wiki/Carriage_116. The bug boxes in the initial post are too large, but there was a discrepancy somewhere between the plans, my stock and Kevin's stock. All have now been rescaled to the appropriate scale in line with Kevin's work.

Ben

[Nvincer]

Ffestiniog Railway - Coach 116 [3280585 bytes] - BV_FR_116.zip File ID: 24848 Date: 20 Sep 2010 - 402 Downloads

Awaiting approval, I'd be interested to hear what you think.

Cheers,

Ben

[MuzTrem]

Just took her for a quick spin on the FfR. Without doubt this is your best work yet Ben, more than equal to the best efforts of even the most established MSTS modellers. Give yourself a pat on the back, and I look forward to downloading the other coaches!

[Nvincer]

Thanks Murray, glad it is of use!

Ben

[kevmt]

They've actually been scaled down to match Kevin's stock, coaches of this type are all (heightwise) pretty much a muchness. See picture - http://www.festipedia.org.uk/wiki/Carriage_116. The bug boxes in the initial post are too large, but there was a discrepancy somewhere between the plans, my stock and Kevin's stock. All have now been rescaled to the appropriate scale in line with Kevin's work.

Ben

All I can say is that all my stock was made using plans.

Ffestiniog carriages are not of uniform hieght!! The bug boxes are very small and all other coaches tower over them. I also get the impression that the very latest reworked coaches are to a slightly higher loading gauge then previous incarnations, though would have to check to be sure.

The picture you linked to Ben, shows that 116 is taller then the coach on it's left. Hard to tell what that coach, is but could be something like 117/118. I'm afraid I'm a bit rusty where Ffest coaches are concerend, these days.

Just in case anyone wonders, I'm not going to go back and alter my stuff!!

Kevin

[Nvincer]

Kevin,

I am not for one minute suggesting that your stock is wrong, all I am saying that there was a discrepancy between coach 22/26 and some of your stock as we discussed via Private Messaging.

I too have built these coaches from scale drawings and don't know what has gone wrong. The discrepancy came with the earlier coaches 22/26 and the BugBoxes anyway. The screenshot below should show this.



Coach 116/118 are actually very similar in height, that picture doesn't show it very well though as it has 118 has a sloping roof at the front and rear.

I wouldn't expect you to rebuilt any of your stock. I have matched mine to yours and am just hopefully filling in some of the gaps.

Cheers,

Ben