The Skarloey Railway

rwaceyw · Post by **rwaceyw** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 4:43 pm

Theres a little railway coach made by daz, i'll send it over.

sillyevan27 · Post by **sillyevan27** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 4:45 pm

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT DAVID?!?!?!?!
Don't you see that coach in my pic of Beatrice on uktrainsim.com????!!!!

You must be blind

rwaceyw · Post by **rwaceyw** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 4:47 pm

D'oh!

sillyevan27 · Post by **sillyevan27** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 4:49 pm

......................

Strange ch...YOU KNOW

rwaceyw · Post by **rwaceyw** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 4:50 pm

Go carve some cows...

sillyevan27 · Post by **sillyevan27** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 4:51 pm

how about you insted

rwaceyw · Post by **rwaceyw** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 4:54 pm

You're the butcher!
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BTW Duncan has been uploaded!

sillyevan27 · Post by **sillyevan27** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 4:56 pm

My name:
Evan- Welsh for "John"
Fleischer- German for a butcher

Thank you bilingual dictionary!

selsig · Post by **selsig** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 6:25 pm

I now have a side elevation of a PQR carriage. An end elevation will shortly be arriving here. If you want, I will email you them. Details of what the carriages later became are as follows (from the VCT carrige register)

Carriage "H" ex PQR. Regauged to 2'3" on arrival at TR in 1952/3, operational 1955-61. Rebodied in 1962/3 as Abergynolwyn tea van. Now TR No. 7.

Carriage "P" ex PQR. Regauged to 2'3" on arrival at TR in 1952/3, operational to 1964. Broken up due to poor condition 1965 and running gear used to build new coach 1966 - still in service as TR No.8

Carriges "C"&"D" ex PQR. Bodies used on new bogie underframe 1954 - rebodied 1955. Now TR No. 9

Carriages "E"&"G" ex PQR. Seats etc used on new bogie underframe with new body 1953 - 1965, when it was extensiely rebuilt. Now TR No. 10

Carriage "D" ex PQR. From TR No. 9, carr. "D" was put onto a new 4w vehicle underframe similar to TR No. 7 and 8 but using running gear from a Ffestiniog quarryman's coach. Rebodied 1959. Now TR No. 11

Carriage "C" ex PQR. From TR No. 9, carr. "C" was put onto a new 4w vehicle underframe similar to TR No. 7 and 8 but using running gear from a Ffestiniog quarryman's coach. Rebodied 1958. Now TR No. 12

As regards looks the 4 wheel versions looked almost identical to how they were on the PQR, but with full TR buffing gear and without the handbrake. As would be expected TR No. 9 looked very much like two PQR bodies hashed onto a new bogie underframe for the short duration it was in service.

I would imagine that the Skarloey Railway versions of these coaches (Ada, Jane and Mabel) would be based upon the TR coaches No 7, 8, 11 and 12 as described above.

Hope this helps a bit.

John

sillyevan27 · Post by **sillyevan27** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 6:43 pm

Wow........I never knew that they changed THAT much...

Are you sure you can't find any pics of them before they were changed??

I'd need pics of them as open coaches...not bogies or rebodies...

selsig · Post by **selsig** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 6:51 pm

Photos are a bit of problem. As I said I can provide drawings of them as built. There wasn't that much of a change between then and initial Talyllyn service. The guy who is sending me the drawings did hint that there may be photos soon, but I guess that they are photos of them as 2' gauge coaches.

Do you want the drawings?

John

selsig · Post by **selsig** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 6:57 pm

I now have a photo of Blanche at Port Penrhyn with two Quarryman's Coaches. I can also send this if you want it.

John

sillyevan27 · Post by **sillyevan27** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 7:14 pm

Send them to me

The one you just mentioned and the others too of coarse

Thanks.....I'll be waiting for them

kevmt · Post by **kevmt** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 7:27 pm

All this talk of TR opens has reminded me that I started one for inclusion with Steve Pontin's Talyllyn Railway CD but never got it finished in time.

I'll have to see about finishing it off (Tr no 8 if I remember correctlly)

Cheers

Kevin

selsig · Post by **selsig** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 7:30 pm

Yep, thats No 8 (or 11, 12 or 13) as rebodied post Penrhyn bodies.

John