Class 101 DMU released

[class43HS125]

Hi,
I will probably display my level of "Technical " knowledge here but thats ok
I line up all 7 of the variants side by side and then went for a look around.
A real Treat. And did my eyes deceive me................. NO
Have a look at the second seat back from the cab on the right hand side of the CLASS 101 DMBS that have no first class
Gave me a good
Dereks right, he needs a good rest after such an Excellant project

Ross
NZ

[connorurry]

Such a loverly add-on! Just come back from Holiday having spent £45 on railway books, now this! I could not resist such a loverly add-on. Expect a couple of scenarios soon.

[Wikkus]

Have a look at the second seat back from the cab on the right hand side of the CLASS 101 DMBS that have no first class

Hey, Ross -- page 2, 5th post lol

Rik (still grinning)

[Austcoop]

Hi,

Ok, I've just taken the unit for a proper spin (on the Typical farewell scenario). What can I say that hasn't already been said? The model is fantastic. It looks like a 101, it sounds like a 101 and it goes like a 101. I just love everything about it! For me, the sounds are spot on (although I do remember the vacuum brake being noisier, but that could just be my memory) and I can't fault them. If (when) a passenger view comes along I just hope that Richard Armstrong can get all the squeaks, bangs and rattles that were peculiar to the first generation DMU's. Especially the almost constant squealing from the corridor connections. Awesome model Derek, you should be rightly proud.

Jim

[GavNormandale]

hi, my only complaint is that the speedo is a little inaccurate, not a big problem though

Gav

[class43HS125]

hi,

Rik
Siting facing the back of the seat with ones knees and lower legs out through the back of the seat got my attention more

Ross
NZ

[donny]

hi, my only complaint is that the speedo is a little inaccurate, not a big problem though

Gav

Haha I think you'll find thats actually quite prototypical!

[metrobus]

I think the vacuum brake sounds could do with being a bit louder, and maybe a release sound Also from my time driving the West summerset railway 117 in msts, i can remember they had a very distinctive application and release sound, heard also here in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=1GXPEq- ... re=channel

Physics are spot on Surely the rattling should be heard in all views, as if i recall, it was very noisy Also what is that sort of hydraulic noise when you pull up? Is it supposed to be a brake squeal? If it is it needs to sound a little better, be alot louder, I dont even want to imagine how noisy the brakes are on it, must be even worse than a pacers And there also needs to be a brake rubbing sound as soon as the brakes come on, aswell as a brake squeal at around 10 mph which lasts until its stops

Apart from those small sounds issues, this model is perfects, if only i could get the blinds to say HUDDERSFIELD
Regards Edward

[phat2003uk]

During my time recording, there was no real audible release sound, only when coming out of the full application state but it was so quiet that implementing it in the sim would have been difficult. Would you mind saying at what time in that video there is a brake release sound? I've been able to apply the distinctive application sound as far as I know?

The nature of the rattle is that it's the internal fixtures rattling hence it's not actually heard from outside.

When recording, the 101 hardly squealed when coming to a stop and the sound that is included is the most it ever squealed.

Also, no audible brake rub sound was heard whilst recording.

Believe me, these things would have been implemented if I'd actually heard them whilst recording. You also need to bear in mind that these units are no longer in mainline service and I had to make do with recording an example on a 25mph preserved line on jointed track too which makes it even more tricky to get the correct sounds without background noise.

[metrobus]

This is the most audiable brake release i have found so far, at around 30 seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=Rmx3PeS ... re=related
Looks like ill be up to the ELR next time the 101 or the 122 is out, with my cam corder That also explains why the bogie sounds are default - jointed track
Regards Edward

[Wikkus]

if only i could get the blinds to say HUDDERSFIELD

Kind of missed the boat there, so to speak, Edward.

Way back in this thread, Derek asked the community which destinations of *more than* 11 letters we would like to see included. After lots of responses which were 11 or less letters -- you can insert these at will, natively -- there was one vote for Huddersfield and that was 5 days after the thread was started.

Those that made it to release are:
a Bishop Auckland
b Birmingham New St
c Charter Special
d Cardiff Central / Caerdydd Canolog
e Edinburgh (Waverley)
f Barnard Castle.
g Glasgow Central
h Gatwick Airport
i Chesterfield
j Sheffield Midland
k Kirkcudbright
l Liverpool Lime St
m Manchester Victoria
n Middlesbrough
o Stranraer Harbour
p Manchester Piccadilly
q West Hartlepool
r Whitby West Cliff
s Not in Service
t Weston-super-Mare
u Bristol Temple Meads
v Warrington Central
w Wolverhampton
x Watford Junction
y Kirkby Stephen
z Sc

As I recall, the implication was that there may be scope for the reskinning community to furnish us with those that didn't make the cut.

Rgds,

Rik.

[phill70]

You also need to bear in mind that these units are no longer in mainline service and I had to make do with recording an example on a 25mph preserved line on jointed track too which makes it even more tricky to get the correct sounds without background noise.

There lies the problem of sounds for anything no longer in service, the best you are going to get is the preserved line syndrome, not taking anything away from Richard, as he has done a great job.
There is no way you are going to get the real sound of it rattling its self to bits at 70mph, doing 25mph on a preserved railway, same goes for the brake squeal, and most of that is down to the driving style anyway.
how do I know that ?
Because I have driven just a few in real life,

[Austcoop]

I'd agree with the comments on the Vacuum brake sounds to a certain extent. I don't think there is anything wrong with them at all, I would (and this is only my personal preference) just like them a little louder. From memory and watching vids on Youtube, the sound of the in-rushing (or out rushing??) air on application is quite a harsh, loud sound. Richard, Is there a way that an individual user, like myself, could edit the default vac brake sound to make it a little louder, or would it require a complete re working of the whole audio package?

Regards, Jim

[phill70]

I'd agree with the comments on the Vacuum brake sounds to a certain extent. I don't think there is anything wrong with them at all, I would (and this is only my personal preference) just like them a little louder. From memory and watching vids on Youtube, the sound of the in-rushing (or out rushing??) air on application is quite a harsh, loud sound. Richard, Is there a way that an individual user, like myself, could edit the default vac brake sound to make it a little louder, or would it require a complete re working of the whole audio package?

Regards, Jim

Jim
See above re the preserved line syndrome.

Braking on preserved lines is nowhere near as harsh as in real service, so the in rush of air sound will not be as loud.

[Austcoop]

Thanks Glyn,

Yeah, I do agree with that. Gentle braking on a preserved line isn't going to be anywhere like a hefty application on a service train. Be nice to adjust the sounds though, without a total rework.

Jim