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Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:48 am
by deltic009
davejc64 wrote:Would have been nice if they had included a class 332 for the Heathrow express as part of the route.
But as raised before, the trains have an exceptional level of extra visual and likely functional details - all this stuff takes extra man hours per train, but they've kept the DLC price the same at £24.99 for a route and trains. So if the price is the same, the man hours are the same and the detail is higher then the quantity of the content has to be reduced to make it a viable going concern.
I actually think that we may even get less stock with future UK content, but this is to get us all onboard and appetites whet for the next installments whenever in the future.
Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:05 am
by davejc64
deltic009 wrote:davejc64 wrote:Would have been nice if they had included a class 332 for the Heathrow express as part of the route.
But as raised before, the trains have an exceptional level of extra visual and likely functional details - all this stuff takes extra man hours per train, but they've kept the DLC price the same at £24.99 for a route and trains. So if the price is the same, the man hours are the same and the detail is higher then the quantity of the content has to be reduced to make it a viable going concern.
I actually think that we may even get less stock with future UK content, but this is to get us all onboard and appetites whet for the next installments whenever in the future.
I wasn't being critical I was just thinking that it would have been nice, you obviously don't think it would have been nice, which is fair enough.

Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:19 pm
by SamYeager270
davejc64 wrote:Would have been nice if they had included a class 332 for the Heathrow express as part of the route.
The comments to the latest article (Thames Valley Services) include the following from Trainsim-Steve:
Heathrow trains are completely omitted at this point Simon, this is so that when we bring those trains to Train Sim World, they can be slotted into the gaps left without too much difficulty.
Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:23 pm
by JackRyan
Should be because of license issues.
Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:05 pm
by deltic009
davejc64 wrote:deltic009 wrote:davejc64 wrote:Would have been nice if they had included a class 332 for the Heathrow express as part of the route.
But as raised before, the trains have an exceptional level of extra visual and likely functional details - all this stuff takes extra man hours per train, but they've kept the DLC price the same at £24.99 for a route and trains. So if the price is the same, the man hours are the same and the detail is higher then the quantity of the content has to be reduced to make it a viable going concern.
I actually think that we may even get less stock with future UK content, but this is to get us all onboard and appetites whet for the next installments whenever in the future.
I wasn't being critical I was just thinking that it would have been nice, you obviously don't think it would have been nice, which is fair enough.

No, I just see a difference between what I would like and what I expect it is ideal. I'd like the whole GWR with every piece of stock that uses it, but wanting it won't help me get it

Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:10 pm
by tnleeuw01
Reading Sam Yeagers message above, these services are not included because they plan on releasing it as DLC later. That's fair enough, I guess!
--Tim
Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:48 pm
by theorganist
tnleeuw01 wrote:Reading Sam Yeagers message above, these services are not included because they plan on releasing it as DLC later. That's fair enough, I guess!
--Tim
I'd say so. Service mode with a couple of different trains and route extensions would make for some very interesting operation. I do wonder if in the released state it will become a little stale until tools and new content is released.
One thing that puzzles me is that I do wonder if the 165 would have been more suitable than the 166. The 166's were introduced for the fast Newbury and Oxford services iirc with the 165's for the Reading and other local services? Would it not made more sense to include either both (I am not sure of differences) or just the 165?
Either way I'm looking forward to release day.
Peter
Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:05 pm
by CapitolLimited
Does anyone know if they plan on updating the route when electrification is completed. Perhaps as a standalone update, so those of us who prefer the pre-finished electrification can have essentially two eras to drive this in?
Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:12 pm
by deltic009
CapitolLimited wrote:Does anyone know if they plan on updating the route when electrification is completed. Perhaps as a standalone update, so those of us who prefer the pre-finished electrification can have essentially two eras to drive this in?
Only they know if they plan on it, but I'd be surprised if the effort to do so would be borne out in the sales figures as well. Ultimately we shall have to await any announcements.
Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:11 am
by davejc64
I do remember them saying something along the lines that the GWR mainline out of Paddington was going through some reconstruction, I think it was in an early developer report video on the route, whether that meant that they would follow that reconstruction in game or not I don't know, maybe they were hinting that they would, we will have to wait and see.
Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:20 am
by SamYeager270
davejc64 wrote:I do remember them saying something along the lines that the GWR mainline out of Paddington was going through some reconstruction
In the comments on their latest article DTG say the time table is based on late 2015 so I assume, dangerous I know

, that the track is currently based on the same time period. As said in other posts we will have to wait and see whether they will extend/update GWE although it seems clear that they have plans to add additional trains such as 387s.
Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:41 am
by davejc64
SamYeager270 wrote:davejc64 wrote:I do remember them saying something along the lines that the GWR mainline out of Paddington was going through some reconstruction
In the comments on their latest article DTG say the time table is based on late 2015 so I assume, dangerous I know

, that the track is currently based on the same time period. As said in other posts we will have to wait and see whether they will extend/update GWE although it seems clear that they have plans to add additional trains such as 387s.
Yes indeed, I even said "we will have to wait and see" in my post as well as including the word "maybe", I know I am speculating which is a dangerous thing on this forum, I can hear the firing quad loading their guns already.

Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:53 am
by deltic009
On TrainSim Live Facebook page, which is Matt Peddlesden, there has been a post stating that at 6pm today (presumably GMT) will be the official Dovetail Live Stream of Great Western Express - then it says at 8pm Matt will also be hosting his own LiveStream too. Typically I'm working this evening but I shall pack the tablet for work and hope for the best.
Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:27 am
by SamYeager270
deltic009 wrote:On TrainSim Live Facebook page, which is Matt Peddlesden, there has been a post stating that at 6pm today (presumably GMT) will be the official Dovetail Live Stream of Great Western Express - then it says at 8pm Matt will also be hosting his own LiveStream too. Typically I'm working this evening but I shall pack the tablet for work and hope for the best.
I think you'll find the UK is currently using BST (GMT+1) time.

Re: TSW Great Western Express
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:00 pm
by coppo
So, watching the Twitch stream - So, it's stormy, yet we get a reflection of the sun in the building windows??
They still haven't mastered the effect of clouds, etc on the level of sunlight...
