Class390/Pendolino 11-cars

[Traveller54]

Can anyone point me in the right direction as to where the coach letter 'hides' in the TSO coach please? (Not in the description btw but within the coding!)

I want to include coaches F & U for inclusion with the newish 11-car sets for the WCML and can't find out how the coach letter changes on the door panels.

RSC haven't answered my week old question yet aif they will be updating so I want to do it all by myself!

MTIA fo any help or assistance,

[thetrainfan]

You may already know this (isn't a direct reply to your question) but F and U are basically an extra 'E' carriage - exact same as F however U has an extra luggage rack in place of two seats around halfway down the carriage.

E and F = 76 seater
U = 74 seater.

[Traveller54]

You may already know this (isn't a direct reply to your question) but F and U are basically an extra 'E' carriage - exact same as F however U has an extra luggage rack in place of two seats around halfway down the carriage.
E and F = 76 seater
U = 74 seater.

Yep got that from here http://www.virgintrains.co.uk/assets/pd ... g-plan.pdf - thanks.

I have already used those for my consist but, being a completist, I want the actual door plates to have the correct (F & U) letters on their display!

[220389]

Can anyone point me in the right direction as to where the coach letter 'hides' in the TSO coach please? (Not in the description btw but within the coding!)

I want to include coaches F & U for inclusion with the newish 11-car sets for the WCML and can't find out how the coach letter changes on the door panels.

RSC haven't answered my week old question yet aif they will be updating so I want to do it all by myself!

MTIA fo any help or assistance,

Best coaches to use for F is what trainfan said being E, for U it has to be C but will be incorrect due to it still having the Pantograph, whilst the real coach U has the recess and transformers only.

Chris

[thetrainfan]

Just had a gander and it is:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\railworks\Assets\S9BL\Class390Addon\RailVehicles\Electric\Class390\VT\DMSO\Textures\390_f.TgPcDx


Sean

[Traveller54]

Just had a gander and it is:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\railworks\Assets\S9BL\Class390Addon\RailVehicles\Electric\Class390\VT\DMSO\Textures\390_f.TgPcDx
Sean

This is a graphic of the door panel used on each coach. The coach letter is inserted into this by either the .BIN or the .GeoPcDx - that is what I am trying to find.

[Traveller54]

@220389 - Thanks for the pointer to this! I hadn't noticed the panto recess on 'Coach U' so have now used the PTSRMB coach as a base; all I have to do now is fugure out how to get rid of the panto structure off the top!

About the Coach letters. I have found this in each coaches .BIN file (this example is for a TSO/Coach E):
<cControlContainerBlueprint-cControlValue d:id="57001112">
<ControlName d:type="cDeltaString">CoachID</ControlName>
<DefaultValue d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000002040" d:precision="string">8</DefaultValue>
<MinimumValue d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000002040" d:precision="string">8</MinimumValue>
<MaximumValue d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000002040" d:precision="string">8</MaximumValue>
<BriefDescription d:type="cDeltaString"></BriefDescription>
<DetailedDescription d:type="cDeltaString"></DetailedDescription>
<ApplyToConsist d:type="cDeltaString">eFalse</ApplyToConsist>
<InterfaceElements/>
</cControlContainerBlueprint-cControlValue>

... and the number designators for each coach are these:-
Coach A = 1/1/1
Coach B = 4/4/4
Coach C = 7/7/7
Coach D = 5/5/5
Coach E = 8/8/8
Coach J = 3/3/3
Coach H = 6/6/6
Coach G = 2/2/2
Coach K = 0/0/0

Wonder why they are not in an ascending order? And wonder why, if you change say Coach E from 8 to 1, it still shows E on the door boards 'in-sim'?!

Onwards ...............

[220389]

@220389 - Thanks for the pointer to this! I hadn't noticed the panto recess on 'Coach U' so have now used the PTSRMB coach as a base; all I have to do now is fugure out how to get rid of the panto structure off the top!

Very welcome. Was on 390156 on Sunday for a short trip to Birmingham International from New Street, The luggage space where the shop would be (as in C) the roof is very low so the point of the overhead bit is useless as never would get and normal sized bag up there now.

Chris

[Traveller54]

@220389 - Thanks for the pointer to this! I hadn't noticed the panto recess on 'Coach U' so have now used the PTSRMB coach as a base; all I have to do now is fugure out how to get rid of the panto structure off the top!

Very welcome. Was on 390156 on Sunday for a short trip to Birmingham International from New Street, The luggage space where the shop would be (as in C) the roof is very low so the point of the overhead bit is useless as never would get and normal sized bag up there now.

Chris

I have actually given up on having Coach C as Coach U! The panto gear is called from the .Geo file and therefore can't be 'excluded'. Removing the three graphic files only acheives a rack of 'missing image' decals in there place! Back to two Coach E's now for F & U - still can't fathom how to change the letters in the door panels so promised myself not to look too closely

[220389]

@220389 - Thanks for the pointer to this! I hadn't noticed the panto recess on 'Coach U' so have now used the PTSRMB coach as a base; all I have to do now is fugure out how to get rid of the panto structure off the top!

Very welcome. Was on 390156 on Sunday for a short trip to Birmingham International from New Street, The luggage space where the shop would be (as in C) the roof is very low so the point of the overhead bit is useless as never would get and normal sized bag up there now.

Chris

I have actually given up on having Coach C as Coach U! The panto gear is called from the .Geo file and therefore can't be 'excluded'. Removing the three graphic files only acheives a rack of 'missing image' decals in there place! Back to two Coach E's now for F & U - still can't fathom how to change the letters in the door panels so promised myself not to look too closely

Thats ashame. Hopefully we do get the two extra coaches though for the Pendo.

For when i've used them in scenarios i stick two Coach C's in it even though looks a bit odd with two pantographs up.

Well best of luck trying to find out though

Chris

[DaveDewhurst]

Just had a little play
This is as much of the pantograph that can be removed

The rest is attached to the body

Transparent texture possibly?

Dave

[DaveDewhurst]

Had a couple of pms asking how I'd done it so here it is as I hadnt intended to ever finish this mod, I just wanted to know whether it could be done

For anyone that wants to carry on heres what Ive done so far.

I made a copy of the PTSRMB directory and its contents and called it "U" (names not really important as long as it matches the one you use in the next step).
Then I edited the .bin file and changed every reference to the PTSRMB directory to "U" and changed the name of the coach so I could find it in the game.
While it was open I also removed the pantograph animation, the pantograph sound and the spark child object)
Next step is to find a control value called CoachID and change it to 11
Save that and open the enginescript.lua in the common scripts directory.

Near the top youll see a lot of coach type = lines
paste

Code: Select all

COACH_TYPE_U			= 11

just below
then do a search for the text "activatePassViewLights(0)" and just after the next line (below "end") paste the following

Code: Select all

	if gCoachType == COACH_TYPE_U then
		Call("*:ActivateNode", "pantoFrame", 0)
		Call("*:ActivateNode", "pantoA", 0)
		Call("*:ActivateNode", "pantoB", 0)
		Call("*:ActivateNode", "pantoC", 0)
		Call("*:ActivateNode", "pantoD", 0)
		Call("*:ActivateNode", "pantoE", 0)
		Call("*:ActivateNode", "sparkA", 0)
		Call("*:ActivateNode", "sparkB", 0)
		Call("*:ActivateNode", "sparkC", 0)
		Call("*:ActivateNode", "sparkD", 0)
		Call("*:ActivateNode", "sparkE", 0)
		Call("*:ActivateNode", "sparkF", 0)
	end

That should be it, havent tested it fully, the spark might still spark and other problems might arise when part of a consist but the groundwork is there to show it can be done.

As to the coach letters on the doors you can either
edit the geo to look for a different texture (easier but possibly classed as reverse engineering?)
or make a child object with the specific letter on to float in the correct location, (harder but redistributable)

The other coach should be similar but without the section of code hiding the pantograph

Have fun

Dave

[Traveller54]

Done all that Dave - checked and double checked and I still get the Panto?

[DaveDewhurst]

Odd,
Ive just emailed you my edited .bin and .lua,
Try them see if they work
If they dont its me

Dave

edit , just had a thought, when you changd the CoachID control value to 11, did you change the all three (min/max/default)?

[Traveller54]

Odd,
Ive just emailed you my edited .bin and .lua,
Try them see if they work
If they dont its me
Dave
edit , just had a thought, when you changd the CoachID control value to 11, did you change the all three (min/max/default)?

CoachID - yes.

Files received and work just fine - probably me! Will investigate and report back.