Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

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brysonman46
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Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

Post by brysonman46 »

I have just installed a larger (500GB) SSD (the boot SSD also had TS installed on it, so moved it onto the larger one). Have followed all the instructions regarding moving the installation, and successfully transported all the files. On opening up in TS, no matter what route, I get major graphical issues. Coloured lines all over the screen, or vertical banks like a gray wall, or dark cloud-like features overhead. I have even tried another installation on my SATA 1TB spinner, and get the same effects, so not a disk fault. All suggestions welcome.
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peterfhayes
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Re: Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

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see my reply on the other forums
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Re: Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

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Just what were "all the instructions"?

It sounds very much like the corruption caused by DRM kicking in, so did you pause/abort the installation of TS and just copied your files over?---that could mean Steam doesn't know that you're entitled to have what it's finding.
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Re: Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

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gptech wrote:Just what were "all the instructions"?

It sounds very much like the corruption caused by DRM kicking in, so did you pause/abort the installation of TS and just copied your files over?---that could mean Steam doesn't know that you're entitled to have what it's finding.
Steam tells me that I have a legitimate copy of TS2017 (it is shown in my Steam Library, and has worked correctly on the original SSD on the PC since I transferred TS2017 from my older laptop). I followed the instructions given in the official Moving a Steam Installation and Games (https://support.steampowered.com/kb_art ... _faqid=231)) - to the letter.
I used the option to add the new library folder. I even set it to default. I went into Steam and unticked virtually all of my DLC. Having moved the stripped folders over, I asked to verify game files. It set about that, and after about 60 minutes had completed. I then found that it had repopulated my OLD installation (on the old SSD), mostly with Scenarios! I then closed down Steam (using Task manager), removed the old installation, rebooted, and repeated the operation. Having completed, I then put back my routes and assets in the new installation. The rest is as I reported above.
I have no other games, or anything else on this drive. I have no problems on other apps on the old SSD, or the HDD.
I think that I will have to strip everything out, and get a fresh copy of the Steam app, and then download my official copy of TS2017. If that works OK, then I can sort out my assets and Routes as I wish them. If not, then I am truly stuck.
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Re: Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

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I have run dxdiag, and a summary of the results are below
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System Information
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Time of this report: 9/14/2017, 08:57:12
Machine name: DESKTOP-67T0F75
Machine Id: {0063FDAE-360C-4134-8183-1756F5005D6E}
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 15063) (15063.rs2_release.170317-1834)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To be filled by O.E.M.
System Model: To be filled by O.E.M.
BIOS: 2701
Processor: AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor (8 CPUs), ~4.0GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8092MB RAM
Page File: 2890MB used, 6481MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 12
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
Miracast: Available, with HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
DxDiag Version: 10.00.15063.0000 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

etc,
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 1050
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Type: Full Device
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1C81&SUBSYS_8C971462&REV_A1
Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 6052 MB
Dedicated Memory: 2006 MB
Shared Memory: 4046 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: C22F390
Monitor Id: SAM0D28
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HDMI
Driver Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvldumdx.dll
Driver File Version: 22.21.0013.8205 (English)
Driver Version: 22.21.13.8205
DDI Version: 12
Feature Levels: 12_1,12_0,11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
Driver Model: WDDM 2.2
Graphics Preemption: Pixel
Compute Preemption: Dispatch
Miracast: Not Supported by Graphics driver
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
Power P-states: Not Supported
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 01/05/2017 01:00:00, 901704 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: Unknown
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-5FC1-11CF-DF57-9AAC1BC2DB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x1C81
SubSys ID: 0x8C971462
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Driver Strong Name: oem16.inf:0f066de3900d3b82:Section088:22.21.13.8205:pci\ven_10de&dev_1c81
Rank Of Driver: 00D12001
Video Accel:
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D3D9 Overlay: Supported
DXVA-HD: Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
MPO Caps: Not Supported
MPO Stretch: Not Supported
MPO Media Hints: Not Supported
MPO Formats: Not Supported


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System Devices
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Name: PCI-to-PCI Bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5A16&SUBSYS_5A141002&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&10
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 10.00.15063.0000 (English), 3/18/2017 21:56:26, 353696 bytes

Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1C81&SUBSYS_8C971462&REV_A1\4&14E8F4CB&0&0010
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Drs\dbInstaller.exe, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:01:50, 465304 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Drs\nvdrsdb.bin, 5/19/2017 14:22:48, 1382464 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\NvContainerSetup.exe, 1.00.0007.0000 (English), 5/19/2017 18:02:50, 4193560 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\NvCplSetupInt.exe, 1.00.0007.0000 (English), 5/19/2017 18:02:54, 100754832 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\detoured.dll, 2.01.0000.0224 (English), 5/19/2017 18:03:06, 27544 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\nvd3d9wrap.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:30, 230992 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\nvdxgiwrap.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:50, 154016 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\detoured.dll, 2.01.0000.0224 (English), 5/19/2017 18:03:08, 27544 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\nvd3d9wrapx.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:32, 274792 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\nvdxgiwrapx.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:52, 182656 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\license.txt, 5/19/2017 14:22:46, 27203 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\MCU.exe, 1.01.5204.20580 (English), 5/19/2017 18:02:14, 857168 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvdebugdump.exe, 6.14.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:03:00, 423320 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.1.pdf, 5/19/2017 14:22:48, 77145 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.exe, 8.17.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:03:56, 459160 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvml.dll, 8.17.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:04:42, 867224 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\OpenCL\OpenCL.dll, 2.00.0004.0000 (English), 5/19/2017 18:07:04, 427608 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\OpenCL\OpenCL64.dll, 2.00.0004.0000 (English), 5/19/2017 18:07:06, 521816 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvlddmkm.sys, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:04:38, 14456912 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvd3dumx.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:38, 17055088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvd3dumx_cfg.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:42, 17420944 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvinitx.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:18, 206632 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvldumdx.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:22, 901704 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvoglshim64.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:30, 183296 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvumdshimx.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:50, 621720 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvwgf2umx.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:58, 24927312 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvwgf2umx_cfg.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:49:04, 25657048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvFBC64.dll, 6.14.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:03:20, 1062808 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvIFR64.dll, 6.14.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:04:16, 969624 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvIFROpenGL.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:04:20, 618584 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nv-vk64.json, 5/19/2017 14:22:46, 669 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvDecMFTMjpeg.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:03:04, 829848 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvEncMFTH264.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:58, 1298696 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvEncMFThevc.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:00, 1296264 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvEncodeAPI64.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:08, 791792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvapi64.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:20, 4136736 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcompiler.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:02:42, 40210512 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcuda.dll, 6.14.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:26, 11129704 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcuvid.dll, 7.17.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:02:58, 3800984 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvfatbinaryLoader.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:14, 703880 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvinfo.pb, 5/19/2017 14:22:48, 45061 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmcumd.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:26, 633040 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglv64.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:05:04, 35397528 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvopencl.dll, 6.14.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:34, 10648512 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvptxJitCompiler.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:42, 11161992 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvd3dum.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:34, 13819408 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvd3dum_cfg.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:46, 14119600 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvinit.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:16, 179016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvldumd.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:20, 742752 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvoglshim32.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:28, 154080 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvumdshim.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:48, 505800 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvwgf2um.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:52, 21012232 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_ref_pubwu.inf_amd64_f9309145156afb40\nvwgf2um_cfg.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:49:10, 21855576 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\NvFBC.dll, 6.14.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:03:16, 999832 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\NvIFR.dll, 6.14.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:04:16, 920664 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\NvIFROpenGL.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:04:18, 507984 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\nv-vk32.json, 5/19/2017 14:22:46, 669 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\nvDecMFTMjpeg.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:03:02, 659864 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\nvEncMFTH264.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:54, 1013344 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\nvEncMFThevc.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:00, 1011488 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\nvEncodeAPI.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:04, 626384 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\nvapi.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:18, 3647864 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\nvcompiler.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:02:36, 35290192 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\nvcuda.dll, 6.14.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:47:22, 9335520 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\nvcuvid.dll, 7.17.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:02:56, 3256408 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\nvfatbinaryLoader.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:12, 591672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\nvoglv32.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 18:04:56, 28632152 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\nvopencl.dll, 6.14.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:32, 8891160 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWow64\nvptxJitCompiler.dll, 22.21.0013.8205 (English), 5/19/2017 17:48:40, 9102480 bytes
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Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvdispco6438205.dll, 2.00.0048.0004 (English), 5/19/2017 18:03:12, 1996696 bytes
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Problem signature:
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Problem signature:
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Event Name: APPCRASH
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Re: Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

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brysonman46 wrote:Steam tells me that I have a legitimate copy of TS2017
Nobody's saying otherwise, just that the installation of Steam on your machine may not have heard the news.
brysonman46 wrote:I used the option to add the new library folder. I even set it to default. I went into Steam and unticked virtually all of my DLC. Having moved the stripped folders over,
So you haven't moved Steam, just told it to create a new library on a different disc--you'd be better off getting the whole lot on the new drive. Why did you untick all your DLC?...that isn't following the instructions to the letter!! All you've done there is tell Steam that you don't want those items anymore.

As Steam re-downloaded stuff to your old location, did you set the new one as the default?---step 5 in the instructions "5.You can right-click on one of the paths to set it as a default."

Log in to Steam and tick all your goodies again, get back to a full installation, whether it works or not is immaterial just now, the main thing is to make sure that what your local copy and what the Steam server see as the state of your installation match. I'd even go so far as to revert back to the original location for the SteamApps folder before making things more complicated with multiple broken copies.

Once you're at the stage of having it all in one place, just copy Steam.exe to a new Steam folder on the new drive and double clck it---that'll invoke a new installation of Steam and then it'll start downloading your stuff to the new location. Usually you can stop this process, copy your old installation back and everything works but as it's "all gone up the left" it'd be worthwhile leaving it running; possibly best to leave that bit until bedtime, then it does it when you don't need the PC. Your old installation then effectively becomes a nice backup---though of course as it's still going to be suspect that's debatable, so deleting that--AFTER MAKING SURE ALL IS KOSHER IN THE NEW INSTALL OF COURSE-- and making a *proper* copy is probably the wisest move.
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Re: Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

Post by brysonman46 »

Gary, I wasn't saying that you said it wasn't legit (though someone else did on another forum!).
As I said, I did set the new location as the default. Also, the received wisdom was to untick items that I did not wish downloaded (they remain in my DLC list and I can always redownload them, but as I have them in my backup, do not need to).
I have removed the setup from SSD1 (which was the original default and ran successfully up to yesterday lunchtime before I tried the transfer to SSD2). However, I will go the whole hog and first go back to that, as you suggest.
So, should this be the route forward.
I reset the default onto SSD1 within Steam, and retick all the items of DLC. I then use Steamsetup.exe to get the files and DLC onto SSD1. Once completed, check that all is working correctly. I then need to remove the reference to the application on SSD2, so I can remove all Steam files (keeping Steamapps folder safe (though I do have routes and assets backed up).
I then copy Steam.exe to my new location on SSD2, and double click. Once all downloaded safely, I set up the pointer for RW to point to this location? And check the new installation.
OK so far?
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Re: Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

Post by brysonman46 »

Right, I do have a problem. The main reason for wishing to move to another SSD was the original one (SSD1) is only 120GB, and it contains the OS. So only have 56GB available. I have managed to run RW with just the routes and assets I needed (all US, European, and thoroughly Modern UK is archived, and also unticked in Steam Library). I have just requested Railworks Installed, and it needs 76GB. So, back to plan A, but with a difference. I will go through the process on SSD2.

I may be some time
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Re: Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

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Many thanks to all who gave advice and comments. I now have a working version of TS2017, on my new SSD. I even remembered how to turn off the annoying intro video! I will now archive those routes that I do not require at the moment, and bring back those I do from my back up. I will also bring back all the 3rd party assets that I need, but only a few at a time to see if any of them were causing the problems (which I doubt). I think that having the sim and OS on separate drives is better, but I suspect that there are some time penalties (the game definitely took longer to load).
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Re: Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

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The game should load quicker, maybe not by loads but it certainly shouldn't be slower---perhaps what you're seeing is before the co.tent is cached fully.
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Re: Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

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gptech wrote:The game should load quicker, maybe not by loads but it certainly shouldn't be slower---perhaps what you're seeing is before the co.tent is cached fully.
Why quicker - it was on a SSD before! Having been in and out at least 5 times, the content should be well cached by now. I will keep testing the responses over the coming days.
Certainly the first time, whilst it built the scenario database, I expected to be slow, but not afterwards.
Anyway, it is not really a problem, I just mentioned it "en passant". I am content that I can enjoy the sim again, and continue building my routes.
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Re: Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

Post by markpullinger »

Hi, it just tends to work better quicker with the OS on a different drive to steam, especially if you have an Nvidia card because that tends to put it's cache on the OS drive which means extra traffic on that cable. Having steam on a separate cable means less congestion because each drive can have full bandwidth.
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Re: Moved my Steam installation and having major problems

Post by brysonman46 »

Problem now sorted, and I have a working TS installation (in fact 2). The problem, all along, was due to some "rogue" files in my Kuju folder. I have not isolated them yet, but will do so over the next day or so. Since I set up the present PC, I have used a very restricted asset box, due to the small size of the SSD on which TS (and the OS) were loaded. I only had those routes (and associated assets) that I was working on (and driving) on this drive. I had all my other routes and assets on the backup HDD. Since starting on the present PC, I have collected other assets that I thought may prove useful. Some of them will have found their way into the Kuju folders (I suspect something from one of the European sites - will report if I find it) in the backup assets. Whatever the source, Railworks DRM objected to them when I put the full Kuju folder in my new set up on the new SSD - resulting in the graphics issue.
The strange thing is, about 3 or 4 years ago, I had exactly the same problems on the Island Line (which I reported on the old Steam Railworks Forum). I never did get to the bottom of that. More recently, I also had the problems on the Morecambe Bay (Carnforth-Barrow) route that pjt1974 (Phil Teare) started, and found that it was based on "Island Line" templates. I suspect that these graphic problems were due to something else!
So, after a couple of days of hair pulling, downloading the full TS2017 TWICE, shuffling files, keeping the community informed, I am having an evening off.
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