Atomic Systems

It really doesn't matter that members here can't find anything at fault with the Class 40 - the fact remains that for their own reasons, AP are removing it. As owners of the software, that's their choice. Get over it, or just download it now, while you have the chance, but it's entirely their decision that's not debatable by us. Complaining to AP or here won't alter anything.

Ash

ashgray wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:55 pm It really doesn't matter that members here can't find anything at fault with the Class 40 - the fact remains that for their own reasons, AP are removing it. As owners of the software, that's their choice. Get over it, or just download it now, while you have the chance, but it's entirely their decision that's not debatable by us. Complaining to AP or here won't alter anything.

Ash

This is a forum, by its very nature and intended use its for discussions, whether that being a subject that annoys or disagrees with you is neither here nor there, no one is forcing you to read this thread.

Get over yourself!

ReefGB wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:08 pm

ashgray wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:55 pm It really doesn't matter that members here can't find anything at fault with the Class 40 - the fact remains that for their own reasons, AP are removing it. As owners of the software, that's their choice. Get over it, or just download it now, while you have the chance, but it's entirely their decision that's not debatable by us. Complaining to AP or here won't alter anything.

Ash

This is a forum, by its very nature and intended use its for discussions, whether that being a subject that annoys or disagrees with you is neither here nor there, no one is forcing you to read this thread.

Get over yourself!

Oooh, ouch! Just calm down to panic level - this isn't Facebook!

Actually, I neither agree nor disagree, and the topic certainly doesn't annoy me (?) - I'm simply saying that it's entirely up to AP how long their own products are available for. People getting all agitated here won't affect their decision. As a member here since 2004, I'll read whatever threads I like. If you're going to make it personal by telling me to "get over myself", in a forum that you accept is for exchanges of reasonable views, then you plainly need to read the forum Code of Conduct.

Ash

The only thing about the Class 40 was the Engine sound was not loud enough when in the cab - even dropping the windows did not make a difference.

I worked on Class 40s, as a Guard and I know they were noisier than the model - otherwise the loco is superb

it would have been nice to be able to adjust the Disks in the scenario - but not a problem

749006 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:46 pm The only thing about the Class 40 was the Engine sound was not loud enough when in the cab - even dropping the windows did not make a difference.

I worked on Class 40s, as a Guard and I know they were noisier than the model - otherwise the loco is superb

Didn't AP do the sounds for it? Tut, tut for not getting that right, though it wouldn't be the first where they're sounds levels are too low.

Not being able to save progress unless stationary is a uniquely bad point for this product. If I was AP, I wouldn't be happy with that.

I'd agree that when to remove an item from sale is the publisher's right, but the reasons given in this case don't seem to add up or reflect the user experiences related in not only this forum.

It's a major pack and there will be a big hole for new users, no doubt in my mind it'll be back probably bigger and better hopefully with green TOPS options but for now it's a case of wait and see... AP are a stickler for quality and it's their choice to remove it, to cut to the chase, I see both sides of the story here!!

Isn't the old DT Class 40 still available via JustTrains?

40058 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:23 am It's a major pack and there will be a big hole for new users, no doubt in my mind it'll be back probably bigger and better hopefully with green TOPS options but for now it's a case of wait and see... AP are a stickler for quality and it's their choice to remove it, to cut to the chase, I see both sides of the story here!!

It’s AP we are talking about here you can guarantee it will be back stretched across as many “volume packs” as possible that’s for sure.

USRailFan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:38 pm Isn't the old DT Class 40 still available via JustTrains?

https://www.justtrains.net/product/digi ... n-class-40

That's what I thought

749006 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:46 pm The only thing about the Class 40 was the Engine sound was not loud enough when in the cab - even dropping the windows did not make a difference.

I worked on Class 40s, as a Guard and I know they were noisier than the model - otherwise the loco is superb

That was also the case on the old MSTS North Wales Coast pack but I changed the cab.sms references to the external sounds, not sure if that's possible for TS?

749006 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:46 pm The only thing about the Class 40 was the Engine sound was not loud enough when in the cab - even dropping the windows did not make a difference.

I think it makes a bit of a difference if you open the cab doors as well, though clearly not prototypical or for trying in real life!

a214sli wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:32 pm

749006 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:46 pm The only thing about the Class 40 was the Engine sound was not loud enough when in the cab - even dropping the windows did not make a difference.

I think it makes a bit of a difference if you open the cab doors as well, though clearly not prototypical or for trying in real life!

I tried opening the Windows and it was slightly louder but going to the leaning out view the locos are a lot louder.

ReefGB wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:22 pm

gptech wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:23 pm
Anybody know what those issues were/are?

Sound looping issues from what I understand.

Apparently fixed in march.
Armstrong Powerhouse Update Discussion Thread

Hi - anybody know how you actually get the sound patch? I have looked for updates on the AP site but can't see anything....or is it a case of re-downloading and installing?

thx,

Andy