London to Exeter via Salisbury

[RolandBP]

Aha, I went to play on the Chiltern line and there was no track and one thing I did notice while checking the scenery list in TS-Tools was mention of the London Brighton line, which was not one of those mentioned in the list for Southwest England.
So I went to check it out and it was not installed on the particular version I had the Southwest England route on, so added it and tried the Southwest England route and I now have track.
So the track is obviously from that source.

Now Go try some of the scenarios.

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[gptech]

my knowledge about merging is nill, which is a shame because adding this route to Portsmouth made so much sense

I imagine the origins for PDL and SWE are different. That makes it a non-starter really, far too much work involved to add something that already needs more than enough work doing.

[RolandBP]

As you say, that while the basics are in place, there is too many things to do, like welding track and adjusting track at some stations and over bridges that stand on some tracks, then there is the issue of the woodlands encroaching on the track.
I drove a scenario from Dorking to London and just wasn't happy with the journey. The scenery was too much the same as, the last section.
It could be a great route if tidyed up.

There are too many other excellent, completed routes that I have barely touched, so will be going back to them.

[gptech]

I imagine the origins for PDL and SWE are different.

PDL -- 51.2373 -0.58145
SWE -- 51.5017 -0.10859

Not exact, but close enough for a quick check on the validity of adding the line to Salisbury from just outside Woking....



As suspected, too far out to make the job more hassle than it's worth.

[johnrossetti]

Hi Gary, sorry I think you misunderstood me and I'm not quiet sure what you are circling ?
SWE INCLUDES the PDL line, there is just no scenery
The co-ordinates of Woking and Clapham stations on both sceneries are exactly the same (give or take which platform I was standing on)
which leads me to think that David made a copy of the original Portsmouth Line and added all his stuff to it.
SWE Woking Station 51.31911 \ -0.55560. Clapham Station 51.46452 \ -0.16979
PDL Woking Station 51.31911 \ -0.55547. Clapham Station 51.464144 \ -0.170611
SWE is a more interesting route if you want to go "off piste" so where the two could be combined depends on what coverage is required but
Assuming the owners of the scenery are happy and permit it.
What a route Waterloo to Exeter and Portsmouth and Reading would be, Wow.
John

[gptech]

I think you misunderstood me and I'm not quiet sure what you are circling ?

Sorry John, I didn't explain things very well.

The circled track is the first tile from SWE as the route heads towards Salisbury, once merged into PDL using the supplied origins. (the rest of PDL removed--the idea was to see if a Waterloo to Exeter route could be produced from the pair of routes)

Woking does indeed live at those coordinates on both routes, but in PDE it's tile +1 +8 whilst SWE has it on tile -30 -22.

When a route is built the game sets the tile numbering relative to the origin point. You can change that "reported" origin in the RouteProperties.xml file, which means any scenarios produced starting at the origin will use those coordinates regardless of where those coordinates translate to as the tile number.

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<Origin>


<sGeoPosition>

<Lat d:type="sFloat64" d:precision="string" d:alt_encoding="9C33A2B437C04940">51.5017</Lat>

<Long d:type="sFloat64" d:precision="string" d:alt_encoding="2332ACE28DCCBBBF">-0.10859</Long>

</sGeoPosition>

</Origin>

(for SWE)

Create a new scenario starting at the route origin on PDL and it opens at Guildford. Tile 0 0* . which is what you'd expect as the origin of a graph---the intersection of the 2 axes.
Do the same on SWE and you start at Waterloo, once again tile 0 0* but a fair distance from Woking.
SWE's coordinates translated over to PDL also open at Waterloo, it's just that the tile numbers are out 30 tiles one way, 15 the other (approx.)

(* Tile numbers can be 1 0 or -1 0 or 0 +1 or 0-1 depending on how (it seems) the game feels at that moment.... suffice to say it's close enough to 0 0 for the purpose of this quick testing)

The bottom line is that the origin coordinates are only half of the picture---which tile those coordinates refer to also has a big influence.

[johnrossetti]

Ho Hum, I still think this route, with Portsmouth has /had/ have massive potential, never mind, it does sound like a big job even though a lot of the hard work has already been done. I wonder what happened to David ? have not heard anything from hime for ages, hope he is ok, I for one am very grateful for his routes.
John

[gptech]

I still think this route, with Portsmouth has /had/ have massive potential

Definitely, particularly Waterloo to Exeter set in the BR Blue period.