WCML South - TPWS Problem

[rosschris10]

I've just tested again using the GARL Class 380, the only unit that I'm confident has a functioning TPWS, and drove at no more than 25 mph from the start of the 40 mph restriction and on passing over the TPWS grids in question at 22 mph the TPWS activated. I'd previously tested using the WCML South Pendolino and it appears that the TPWS in that is purely cosmetic, I could cross the grids at any speed without an activation but the TASS did apply the brake as I reached the 25 mph limit at 35! I've got my doubts about the WCML South 350's TPWS as well.

Andy L

P.S. FWIW you get tripped at 2 mph as well! Let's see if DTG respond to the bug report.

Bare in mind they have prob closed up now for Christmas and wont be back till January just keep that in mind if you dont hear anything.

[gptech]

I'll have to retrace my steps to see if I went wrong somewhere.

make sure the link for the grid is before the signal's Link0; the grids work on the state of the next Link0 they find, so if it's after the signal it'd be set to the state of the end of track lights, which are always at red.

[AndyUK]

Thanks, but at the moment doing that is beyond my capability. I don't see any identification on any of the signal links which I assume are shown by the fine green lines in the editor. I've not changed any of the links though, I just cloned the route, deleted the surface grids, tested found no change, then deleted the buried grid, tested and all was well. I then deleted the cloned copy, made an new copy and deleted just the buried grid, tested and found the original problem wasn't fixed.

Andy L

[gptech]

I don't see any identification on any of the signal links which I assume are shown by the fine green lines in the editor.

Click on the signal itself to bring the links into view...



Link0 isn't numbered, but all the others are so it's easy to work out which is which. Link0 is always close to the signal, it's where AI traffic stops when held. Left click on the arrow and hold the button to "grab" the link which is then re-positioned by moving the mouse. If the arrow flips the other way, grab it again and also hold "shift" down to make it flip back.

[AndyUK]

Thanks for taking the time to explain things, I'm sure I'll get there in the end. Going back to your earlier post you said "make sure the link for the grid is before the signal's Link0; the grids work on the state of the next Link0 they find..." in this case does before mean that the white cube on the grid mustn't be beyond the link0 in the direction of travel. If so then I surmise that dragging the grid backwards would fix it, or have I got it wrong?

Andy L

[749006]

Double click on the signal and it will show link 0 on the floor
When you double click on the Grid it has a similar link and it needs to be before the signals link 0 - maybe just before the signal

[AndyUK]

Thanks Peter, I think you've just given me the final piece of the jigsaw. What I see linkwise in the editor for WM488 and its grid is shown below:

Signal Link0

TPWS Link

I interpreted those as showing that the TPWS link is slightly beyond, i.e. to the right of in the shot, the signal link. I then moved the TPWS link back, to the left in the screen shot, and that, in conjunction with deleting the buried grid appears to have fixed the problem.

Thanks to both you and Gary I've learned some more about the editor as well as solving the problem.

Andy L

[749006]

Great work Andy - with help from Gary.

I know how to fix mine now

Peter

[gptech]

I surmise that dragging the grid backwards would fix it

No, not quite-- the link is independent positionally of the grid, as you've found with the buried one where the grid is makes no difference. As you're driving towards the signal the train should pass the link for the grid, which reads the state of the next Link0 in the direction of travel. As that would be for the signal at amber you're clear to proceed without an emergency brake application.

that, in conjunction with deleting the buried grid appears to have fixed the problem.

Well done!....feels good don't it?

[AndyUK]

Thanks for your help Gary. I must admit to a small sense of satisfaction having fixed it, next job I suppose is to see why the WCML (S) Class 350 & 390's TPWS seems not to work.

Andy L

[749006]

Having reported this to DTG I got an email today

Hello Peter,

Please accept our apologies for the delay in responding to your ticket. We are currently experiencing extremely high demand for support right now, and we hope you can forgive the amount of time it has taken to get to your ticket.

Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention.
We value your feedback and please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
The issue below has been documented and flagged for further investigation by the development team. Issues will be prioritised upon receipt based on how severely they affect gameplay.

Class 390 - the signal WM488 before Euston Station causes a TPWS application when showing a single yellow aspect. The player is stopped with an emergency brake applications.

The best way to keep up to date with this issue and more is to monitor our official community channels for updates.

Kind Regards,

Chris Medlock
Customer Support Advisor
Dovetail Games Customer Support

I log in to view my ticket and it has been CLOSED

Nothing to say the problem has been fixed

[AndyUK]

Note their email says "Issues will be prioritised upon receipt based on how severely they affect gameplay." Which I suspect will mean nothing will be done because the default scenarios don't use that bit of track. Add that to the fact that in two of the default trains, the 350 and 390, the TPWS doesn't work anyway so probably very few customers will encounter the problem.

Sad fact is that because a large part of the workforce is apparently dedicated to TSW2 TS20xx seems to be very much the poor relation with only sufficient staff to turn out enough new content to keep the money coming in leaving no room to fix bugs in existing content. If it's any consolation I'm probably still waiting for the missing vigilance audio to be added to the Medway Valley 377! I say probably because thanks to another user's help I was able to fix it myself.

Andy L

[DuncanS1995]

Having reported this to DTG I got an email today
Nothing to say the problem has been fixed

On Behalf of MRFS: I appreciate that I'm a bit late to the party, but I have just done CL148922 [WCMLS] removing extra TSS grid at WM488 and transposing links on WM488. - which should sort it if ever there is a patch. 30 seconds to cure. I think there was a crash when I was putting the TSS grids in there at that point. Apologies for that.

[AndyUK]

Thanks for the update, let's hope the powers that be decide to push out a patch. I wonder if there's any progress on the non-functioning TPWS in the pack's 350 and 390?

Andy L