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shinymac wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:13 am I am merely suggesting that the common denominator between us both is POSSIBLY we both have SWE Electric installed

What's more important is whether the route builder used SWE-E; BHBP will not use tiles contained in another route's ..\Content\Routes folders but have it's own versions of any utilised tiles.

Hi there are a couple of very severe freezes near Reading where the Basingstoke line goes off plus another further along - all on the SWE bit. I think it would probably have crashed on 32 bit but kept going on 64 bit. Not sure why but as the poster was saying - it's a make a cup of coffee size freeze.

markpullinger wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:11 am Hi there are a couple of very severe freezes near Reading where the Basingstoke line goes off plus another further along - all on the SWE bit. I think it would probably have crashed on 32 bit but kept going on 64 bit. Not sure why but as the poster was saying - it's a make a cup of coffee size freeze.

No I don't have South Western Expressways to Reading installed but obviously do have JT's South Western Expressways.

I agree with Mark that my freeze point at Reading is at or around where the Basingstoke line goes off (I haven't found the other one yet unless I have actually found it by approaching from the West - near Theale?).

Unfortunately for me, even in 64 bit, it isn't "make a cup of coffee" - instead "dialled home again...!" and restart the sim...

Rod

Rod, Mark, Derek,
Do you have the ATS OHLE Pack installed? I'm just wondering because I don't and I am not not seeing any freeze or stuttering through that section (Southcote Junction) or any others. I am of course seeing floating milk bottles as expected, but if it is the OHLE pack causing this then I will stick with that.

I did have an issue with the scenario FRGT Acton T.C. - Merehead Quarry an AI collision occurred whilst I was waiting in the passing loop at Woodborough which dumped me out. The service 1A90 Plymouth - Paddington was involved but I didn't get to note the other service name.

Graham

I've just caught up with this thread and would like to add my experience.

I installed SWE to Reading when it was released earlier in the year and it ran fine. About a couple of months ago I started getting rather long (20-30 seconds) freezes primarily in the Southcote Junction area which is a few miles after leaving Reading and therefore about 35 miles from where the extension joins SWE. I have never had the electric version installed but I do now have the latest version which is now called BHBP but I haven't yet tried running it. The problem therefore, for me at least, is something that has occurred to a route which was operating perfectly but for others and possibly me is also occurring in the latest version as well.

Cheers,

Paul

gwrdevon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:20 am Rod, Mark, Derek,
Do you have the ATS OHLE Pack installed? I'm just wondering because I don't and I am not not seeing any freeze or stuttering through that section (Southcote Junction) or any others. I am of course seeing floating milk bottles as expected, but if it is the OHLE pack causing this then I will stick with that.

Graham

Yes I have the ATS OHLE pack installed, but not the latest one. I have a suspicion it may be partly to do with that, but surely it is used in Reading as well and I have no problems there.

Rod

Would appear it might be something in Scenery. Renamed Scenery (scenery didn't load), no crash whilst moving around Reading - renamed Networks, left scenery as normal (scenery loaded), crashed just South of Reading.

Rod

august1929 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:54 am Would appear it might be something in Scenery. Renamed Scenery (scenery didn't load), no crash whilst moving around Reading - renamed Networks, left scenery as normal (scenery loaded), crashed just South of Reading.

Rod

Specifically only (and I mean only - also with view down towards the track) just southwest of Reading West...

Rod

I've just run BHBP for the first time using the included HST scenario 18:33 Padd to Exeter.
Approaching Reading West I had a freeze for approx 33 seconds. Beyond Reading West another freeze for 49 seconds followed by a stutter and another 5 seconds freeze. Immediately beyond Southcote Junction a freeze of approx 32 seconds and a short way further on another also of 32 seconds. I gave up after that.

I must stress that this was occurring for me on the original SWE to Reading route which did not include electrification. It had also run normally before a couple of months ago when the freezing started.


Cheers,

Paul

In fact, if I go straight to Reading West in the editor there is an instant crash...not with Reading station itself though.

Rod

MrHillingdon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:30 pm Approaching Reading West I had a freeze for approx 33 seconds. Beyond Reading West another freeze for 49 seconds followed by a stutter and another 5 seconds freeze. Immediately beyond Southcote Junction a freeze of approx 32 seconds and a short way further on another also of 32 seconds. I gave up after that.

Paul

Possibly lower power of my computer giving me the instant crash - haven't had this in years though (certainly not since 64 bit, my 16GB Ram and much improved graphics card...)

Rod

The route does come with rather a large amount of junk in the ..\Content\Routes folder...half a gig or so of .bak files, .CurrentSave files in scenarios, a duplicated Track Tiles folder, and WIP .xml versions of Tracks.bin

Might be worthwhile cleaning things up a bit and seeing if that helps.

Hi Gary, I do have the ATS overheads, so next test will be to rename the sp202d folder to remove it & see if that fixes the pauses. Oh in answer to another thread that I can't find - the B1 source.bin is a different size to the engine folder version , so yes probably different.
Edit only difference was lots of milk bottles, so now to try renaming preload after trying without the VP grass and tree packs, - there is a heck of a lot of vegetation in this area. if that fails, after that I'll try bringing the viewing distance down a bit

markpullinger wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:54 pm Hi Gary,

I think your getting your 'g's mixed up Mark...Graham (gwrdevon) is the guy you want.

I'm good at that! Thanks for the correction.