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scenarios crash to desktop without error

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 2:55 pm
by jalmar
Hi,

I experience, for some time, problems with not being able to start some scenarios or edit these or edit the routes where these scenarios are used.
Today I did a steam verify but it did not help.
The problematic scenarios load for some seconds and then the sim exits without an error, when running the scenario or editing.

The only way I know to 'debug' is using logmate.
All logmate files end with :
2020-05-29 15:37:38.256 - [RunTimeError] - cBlueprintSet::loadFile File exists in blueprint set, but is not a valid blueprint: RailNetwork\TrackRules\PONtrack.bin
2020-05-29 15:37:38.256 - [RunTimeError] -
2020-05-29 15:37:38.256 - [RunTimeError] - cBlueprintSet::loadFile()
2020-05-29 15:37:38.256 - [RunTimeError] -
2020-05-29 15:37:38.256 - [RunTimeError] - cBlueprintSet.cpp : 369
These are the last lines before the 'crash without error'

I searched for PONtrack.bin and found :
PONtrack.bin Railworks/Assets/PortOgden/RailsimulatorUS/Railnetwork 5 kb
PONtrack.bin Railworks/Assets/PortOgden/Railsimulator/Railnetwork 5 kb
PONtrack.bin PONtrack.bin in Railworks/Assets/Kuju/RailsimulatorUS/Railnetwork 1 kb

My reaction is to copy the 5Kb file over the one in Kuju and see what happens.
But I expect there would be more users with this problem, so , before acting I want to hear your thoughts.

thx
Albert

My computer specs:
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 18362) (18362.19h1_release.190318-1202)
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9600K CPU @ 3.70GHz (6 CPUs), ~3.7GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16322MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
1 Gb SSD, lots of free space

Re: scenarios crash to desktop without error

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:10 pm
by gptech
You need to make sure that you copy a track rule, if that is actually what it is.
As the file exists, can you open it with RW Tools and read it?

Re: scenarios crash to desktop without error

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 3:34 pm
by jalmar
Yes, I can but it is kind of empty :
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<cBlueprintLoader xmlns:d="http://www.kuju.com/TnT/2003/Delta" d:version="1.0">
<Blueprint>
<cTrackRulesBlueprint d:type="cDeltaString">
</cTrackRulesBlueprint>
</Blueprint>
</cBlueprintLoader>

There is another question BTW:
Does the sim crash after reading the last lines in logmate or on the next not shown line ?

Re: scenarios crash to desktop without error

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:11 pm
by FoggyMorning
That Port Ogden track rule is ringing alarm bells from the dim and distant past. Rather than overwriting anything, what happens if you cut them out of your Railworks installation (temporarily at least)?

Re: scenarios crash to desktop without error

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:56 pm
by gptech
jalmar wrote:Does the sim crash after reading the last lines in logmate or on the next not shown line ?
The last lines...it'd be a poor diagnostic tool if it only showed the successful stuff!
FoggyMorning wrote:That Port Ogden track rule is ringing alarm bells from the dim and distant past.
Yep, it's a long standing problematic asset.
jalmar, follow Steve's suggestion and cut the file out of the game...if that allows the scenario(s) to run then we'll look at how essential that file actually is---if it's linked to roads or lofts it doesn't have any impact on the game.

Re: scenarios crash to desktop without error

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 4:58 pm
by jalmar
thx both of you for thinking with me.

I will backup the file before overwriting of course, I will give it a try tomorrow.

But now i'm curious about your remark...

thx
Albert

Re: scenarios crash to desktop without error

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 5:06 pm
by gptech
Who's and which remark??
...and why overwrite?... the suggestion has been to cut & paste the file somewhere else.

Re: scenarios crash to desktop without error

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 5:10 pm
by jalmar
gptech wrote:Who's and which remark??
...and why overwrite?... the suggestion has been to cut & paste the file somewhere else.
Yes, of course that's the idea

FoggyMorning wrote :
That Port Ogden track rule is ringing alarm bells from the dim and distant past

Re: scenarios crash to desktop without error

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 5:11 pm
by chrisreb
I remember that PON track file causing big issues and I think I just removed it and all was well .

Re: scenarios crash to desktop without error

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 7:59 am
by jalmar
OK, thank you all.
I just removed the file ( the 1 Kb one), now 4 scenarios on 4 different routes editable and of course I can drive them.
Now trying to find what I did prior to the steam verify since the steam verify did not give me that file, the verify was done after encountering the problem.

kind regards
Albert

Re: scenarios crash to desktop without error

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 3:56 pm
by 749006
There is a Port Ogden & Chicago Metro Route and you might have got the file from that if you had downloaded it sometime back

Peter

Re: scenarios crash to desktop without error

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 4:25 pm
by jalmar
thx, don't think I have that route but i will check

kind regards
Albert